Axiom Home Page Forums General Discussion Advice from Axiom Owners M22's or M3's?

I agree with all you said Chris (and you said it better than I did). It's just the final conclusion where I seem to be the outcast - my feeling is that unless he has a projection system, the limitation of the M22 (limited vertical dispertion) outweighs the plus (identical timbre).

How much vertical dispersion is needed? An M22 with it's top edge flush with the bottom of the display angled up slightly shouldn't have any problem. I just don't have even that much room, my VP150 covers the Pioneer logo on the bezel of my display.

Well I am a mere spectator on this discussion. I just take the advices.

It might help to provide better advice, if you could describe where you'll be placing the speakers. How high is your display? How much room do you have under it? How do you plan to position your main left and right speakers?

Most people do not need vertical dispersion when the speakers are placed within a reasonable close proximity of the ideal, tweeters at ear level, but everyone can certainly use horizontal dispersion for proper stereo imaging or off axis listening.

Well this is something I will need help. My room is small as it has been said on the other post. It's size is 11.5L x 9W x 9.8H. I can put my display in any height needed, since I will be getting some kind of customized rack or anything else needed to take the tv to the right spot. This room will be only for leisure time so besides the home theater system it will have my piano and a small desk only. I haven't decided yet if I am going to keep the display very low using my actual couch ( Japanese style, so it is almost like seating on the floor), in this case I was wondering if I could keep the speakers right on the floor. Will that be okay? The QS8's are going to be wall mounted. As I said this is my initial idea, since I have no prior experiences on HT setting up I was gonna ask for forum members help on this matter. As you can see I have a small room, but free to be worked around.

The mains and center could easily be left on the floor, I ran my M22s on the floor for a few years, just be sure to install the rubber 'feet' on the bottom to isolate them from the floor. I had run my M22's right on the floor and then added the 'feet' much later and the difference in bass response was noticeable, in a good way

Cork, the concept behind a vertically configured speaker(especially Dr. D'Appolito's vertical MTM design)is to minimize undesirable vertical dispersion and to maximize horizontal dispersion. Horizontally configured speakers generally get it backwards, but may be selected because of aesthetic considerations or vertical space limitations.

I don't want to pretend I have knowledge of design characteristics - I don't. My opinions are based on accumlated reading and one small personal example. And that example is for a short while I had one M22 about 2 feet higher than the other. During that time the "sound field" was noticeably distorted. If I had a right and left even with my screen and a center offset by the amount necessary to get it above or below the monitor, I think the sound would appear equally as distorted. Using the horizontal brings the offest more into alignment. And I think all that really ties back to your qualification of possible using a horizontal speaker due to vertical space limitations; if I were using a screen, I'd definitely get the three matched.

Now the OP seems as if he's putting them all on the floor, so no problems there. He might want to consider stands that tilt the speaker up a few degrees.

I hope I'm not coming off argumentative here, I'm enjoying the discussion and picking up more info.

I believe the options for tilting the speakers up, are hockey pucks, or Auralex pads:

MoPAD: http://www.auralex.com/sound_isolation_mopad/sound_isolation_mopad.asp
SpeakerDudes: http://www.auralex.com/sound_isolation_speakerdudes/speakerdudes.asp