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#313316 - 07/04/10 12:12 PM Re: Reciever problem [Re: patwho]
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Quadrule check the binding posts on the VP180 to make sure there is absolutely nothing that could conduct electricity touching both posts.
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#313322 - 07/04/10 01:14 PM Re: Reciever problem [Re: patwho]
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i would say that the receiver is not on its last leg...

i would say you are trying to get more power out of the receiver than it was designed for... with the M80's you have 2 4ohm speakers... now your running 3 4ohm speakers... that will create a LOT more demand on the receiver, the power supply that was used in that receiver probably can not handle the load of 3 4ohm speakers. 2 4ohm speakers + the rest of your speakers is probably right at the max of what it can handle, you were probably operating right at your equipments design limit the whole time, and didn't notice it... when you threw the 180 into the mix, it was just enough to push it past what it was capable of.

i would say, get a nice 2 channel amp, put the M80's on the 2 channel, and then use the receiver for the rest of your channels and you'll be fine. unless you want to buy another receiver...

You were on the right track, with making them use the 4 ohm speakers at the store, this time make them connect 3 4ohm speakers to whatever receiver your looking at buying.

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#313323 - 07/04/10 01:19 PM Re: Reciever problem [Re: dakkon]
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I agree. Get a nice 2 or 3 channel amp (they're not all that expensive, if your'e looking at a $1000 receiver) and keep the Onk.
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#313324 - 07/04/10 01:25 PM Re: Reciever problem [Re: Ken.C]
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If that Onkyo has been running the 4 ohm M80s perfectly fine and it's just the VP180 that seems to be an issue another option I would personally consider is a single monoblock just for the center channel ... $350 from Outlaw.

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#313325 - 07/04/10 02:07 PM Re: Reciever problem [Re: RickF]
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#313348 - 07/04/10 06:59 PM Re: Reciever problem [Re: Jc]
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thx for the link..it was very informative....Is a 14 gauge speakers wire sufficient enough or you need a 12 gauge?
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#313349 - 07/04/10 07:36 PM Re: Reciever problem [Re: DaMagicman]
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you should tell us how long of a wire run you are planning. if you are going less than 10 ft 14 gauge would be fine. if your going father than 10 ft i would recommend 12 gauge. if you haven't bought wire yet i would tell you to get 12 gauge.. i have 10 gauge wire going to my L/R/C and 12 Gauge going to my surrounds. larger wire is almost always better.......

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#313351 - 07/04/10 08:10 PM Re: Reciever problem [Re: dakkon]
patwho Offline
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Hello, Thanks for all the replies due to my problem. I was outside all day today. I'll want to get into internet radio with a new receiver. So i might go to the pioneer sc 27.I would wait for the new sc37 but i am not interested in 3d.I can get the sc 27 at a good price. Thanks again and a happy fourth to all the people here.

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#313352 - 07/04/10 08:34 PM Re: Reciever problem [Re: dakkon]
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I guess I don't have a choice on the wires...my 16 by 19 with cathedral ceiling bonus room are pre-wired with 14 gauge..
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#313353 - 07/04/10 08:54 PM Re: Reciever problem [Re: DaMagicman]
dakkon Offline
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14 will be fine. i wouldn't worry about it too much.

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