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#313297 - 07/04/10 09:30 AM Reciever problem
patwho Offline
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Registered: 03/27/08
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Loc: Long Island.N.Y
Hello everyone! I have a problem with my reciever. When i added the new vp180 to my system the m80's took a turn for the worse. Their sound was "muffled" to think of a word. Yesterday i had a chance to sit down and play around to see why. I did some a/b testing with my old vp150. The sound was better from the m80's with vp150.I put on some rush and i notice that around -12 on my reciever the speakers were cliping on some songs. I did not want to do any more because i thought that i might damage my speakers. I went to best buy about a month ago to listen to the denon 4310cl and the salesman showed me the pioneer elite sc-27.I like the denon but the the pioneer just blew me away.I had the salsman use 4 ohm speakers on both recievers.(same speakers) I guess i could add a amp or buy a sc-27.I dont' know how much amp's go for but i can get the pioneer for 1199.What do you guys think? i'm going to have to get "the general"(wife) blessing also thanks

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#313298 - 07/04/10 09:43 AM Re: Reciever problem [Re: patwho]
Wid Offline
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Put the switch back to the 8 ohm setting and try it again.
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#313300 - 07/04/10 09:48 AM Re: Reciever problem [Re: patwho]
EFalardeau Offline
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What is your current receiver? How is it configured? If it is configured for "6 Ohm speakes" or "8 Ohm speakers", it is alright, but if it is for "4 Ohm Speakers" switch it back to either 6 or 8 (depends on the receiver).
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#313302 - 07/04/10 09:55 AM Re: Reciever problem [Re: EFalardeau]
patwho Offline
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Registered: 03/27/08
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Loc: Long Island.N.Y
Hello i have a onkyo 705. It's set to 6 ohms thanks

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#313303 - 07/04/10 09:56 AM Re: Reciever problem [Re: patwho]
Wid Offline
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Do you have the fronts set to small?
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#313308 - 07/04/10 11:05 AM Re: Reciever problem [Re: Wid]
DaMagicman Offline
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Registered: 07/03/10
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Loc: Canada
Hello guys & dolls...I'm fairly new to this HT....Do you have to set the ohm for each speaker you have??? I thought all you have to do is plug the speakers and your reciever will do the rest????
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#313309 - 07/04/10 11:14 AM Re: Reciever problem [Re: Wid]
htnut
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+1 try setting speakers to small crossed over to sub at 80hz

Strange you should be having this problem. The Onkyo is supposed to be a 100W THX Select 2 certified unit, so if those ratings are accurate and/or meaningful then you should have no problem driving M80's + VP180.

Also, you should not have been "blown away" by the differences between the Pio SC27 and Denon 4310. Both are excellent units and I'd be willing to bet that any significant differences you heard had more to do with (intentional or unintentional) setup/setting differences.

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#313310 - 07/04/10 11:15 AM Re: Reciever problem [Re: DaMagicman]
htnut
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Originally Posted By: AxorPar
Hello guys & dolls...I'm fairly new to this HT....Do you have to set the ohm for each speaker you have??? I thought all you have to do is plug the speakers and your reciever will do the rest????



No, I'd just leave everything at 8ohm.

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#313314 - 07/04/10 11:51 AM Re: Reciever problem [Re: DaMagicman]
Jc Offline

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Registered: 06/27/06
Posts: 528
Loc: Sherbrooke, QC, Canada
Originally Posted By: AxorPar
Hello guys & dolls...I'm fairly new to this HT....Do you have to set the ohm for each speaker you have??? I thought all you have to do is plug the speakers and your reciever will do the rest????


Hi AxorPar,

Alan, Axiom's Senior Audio Expert, has written a very interesting and informative article on Impedance. I'm sure that you will like it - http://axiomaudio.com/speaker_impedance.html
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#313315 - 07/04/10 12:01 PM Re: Reciever problem [Re: Jc]
patwho Offline
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Registered: 03/27/08
Posts: 47
Loc: Long Island.N.Y
Hello, The front speakers are set at 80.the recievers does not have large or small speaker settings. There are only full range or at the cross over setting.I did some more a/b testing between the two and going from the 180 to 150 the reciever would just shut down. When i went from 150 to 180 it would not.Do you think that my reciever is on its last legs? any suggestions would help. thanks

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