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Perhaps the M3's aren't big enough for the space they are in???

Edit after reading post below: The EP350 bass goes higher frequencies than the EP500. I personally wouldn't go EP500 unless you're running M60 or M80. The L and R channel is supplying most of the upper and mid bass. I would go with M60 or M80 in that size of a room.

Dual subwoofers will even out the lower bass, but it won't supply mid to upper, IF THAT IS YOUR PROBLEM.

I would definitely recommend a second or bigger sub then.

Your ten-foot listening distance IS a factor with your M3s, but not with bass, which needs to pressurize the whole room. And you have a pretty big room to fill!

Generally, a second sub will add more even bass through the room, but it won't be any deeper or louder (unless you co-locate them together). If you wennt with a different sub, say a 500, you'll go bass that goes a little deeper, but won't be as even as running two 350s.

I would have a tendency to go for a 2nd 350 for a room like that.

Is it open to additional living space as well? Any photos you can post?

I will post picture later tonight. right now it annoys me ahah

here is my room, dont check decorating, way far away to be done. I've move last month

Here are my small dvd/cd's collection

Philippe, you say that you have the M3s set "large", but they certainly don't have the bass capability to justify this when a good sub such as the EP350 is available. The M3s should be set "small" with probably an 80Hz crossover in the 5003. In fact, with the M3s "large", unless you apply a special "both" setting(which you don't mention)the sub isn't used at all in music(where there's no .1 LFE channel).

Other comments are that I never use a 2.1 mode with 2-channel material. By not applying processing such as DPLII to extract surround ambience and send it to the QS8s where it belongs, you're not using your equipment to full advantage. The same might be said if you're not using Audyssey MultEQ, which is a major feature that you've paid good money for.

If you have inadequate bass when properly set up, a second sub, correctly positioned, will help both evenness and strength of bass .

John beat me to the punch. Keep the M3's set to small and 80hz crossover this should help with the music side of things. As John pointed out, when the mains are set to large the bass is not directed to the sub at all unless that special "both" setting is used, in a Denon receiver it is listed as LFE + Mains.

I dont know if it's a placebo effect but i have turn the M3 to small this morning and listening few cd's. Call me a fool but there is a good gain. Better soundstage, better bass extention. Now the M3 seem more concentrate on mids. In fact with eyes close i can barely tell where the sub is locate. Haven't put any movie track but i guess that will be closely the same result.
What can i say now, i will get use with those new settings in the next few days.
What do i upgrate now

No placebo at all, Philippe; that's the way the bass is supposed to be distributed. You set the mains "small", typically crossed over at 80Hz, so that the sub can actually become active and be responsible for most of the below 80Hz sound. Makes a significant difference.

Ummm.....Upgrade the M3's to floorstanders?

Now you upgrade your DVD and CD collection!