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Re: 2 Grand total
St_PatGuy #315622 07/20/10 05:18 AM
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Made me laugh. Sprayed diet orange on my monitor. Wiped it off. Very good SPG. Thank you.


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Re: 2 Grand total
2x6spds #315626 07/20/10 05:21 AM
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Re: 2 Grand total
BlueJays1 #315628 07/20/10 05:24 AM
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Originally Posted By: Dr. House

I have been a member here for almost 2 years now and have said nothing but great things about Axiom products, the company and the people. Now these individuals contention is since I don't agree with how Version 3 has been handled I have some sort of agenda against Axiom and that I am spreading negativity. It is absurd and find it do be VERY disappointing.


I also found it disappointing but as forums go the response was fairly mild. I’ve been called (mostly by implication) incompetent, undereducated and well I guess just plane stupid for not towing the company line on a certain speaker, EQ and DSP system. Oh well, I’m pretty sure I’ll sleep ok tonight. wink

I expected to get a few undies in a bundle when I comment on the M80v3 review but not quite as much as happened. Unfortunately things on the internet are far to easily take out of context when the nuances of the about 80% of human communication we lose in this medium are missing.

IMO having varying opinions makes this forum stronger as it helps guard against groupthink.


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Re: 2 Grand total
St_PatGuy #315632 07/20/10 05:30 AM
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Originally Posted By: St_PatGuy


Really, it was the matching "Welcome Back, Kotter" lunch boxes they had.





I don't know why I picked that show?


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Actually it was the matching generic Walmart sour cream containers we brought lunch in because we’re both to cheap to buy real Tupperware.


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Re: 2 Grand total
CV #315636 07/20/10 05:44 AM
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I completely agree with that, CV. If you're buying a v3, then it should look like a v3, too.

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pmbuko #315641 07/20/10 06:05 AM
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Definitely.


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Re: 2 Grand total
grunt #315673 07/20/10 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted By: grunt
You are absolutely correct that arguments can be constructive but IMO only when they don’t devolve down to the personal level. When the discussion becomes about the people having the argument and not the subject at hand it’s time to end it since its value is gone.

Agreed, 100%.

I've often thought that another factor at play is the relative anonymity of the message board format. It's much harder for an argument to devolve to the personal level when you've met someone and broken bread (or tipped a few) with him.

((Also, it's easier to misinterpret someone's typewritten posts than it is their spoken word. Nuance and inflection are often lost in the written format.)) - jinx, I typed this before reading your last post. Great minds think alike, eh? Now, where's my lunchbox? crazy

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Re: 2 Grand total
medic8r #315675 07/20/10 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted By: medic8r
Also, it's easier to misinterpret someone's typewritten posts than it is their spoken word. Nuance and inflection are often lost in the written format.

Absolutely. I can't tell you how many times I've been caught out by that. It's worse when it's with your spouse...


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Ken.C #315684 07/20/10 02:18 PM
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2X6 -

Did you actually order and buy V3's or were they V2's? Your timeline does not match. Did you not order / buy them before the V3 announcement? Now, if you did in fact order / buy V3's and the M3's you received are V2's, I would be pissed as hell and would send them back COD. However, if you bought V2's, and you received V2's, but are pissed because they don't have the label, V3 driver and magnetic grills, well, you bought V2's and to call them V3's is a misrepresentation.

Re: 2 Grand total
michael_d #315707 07/20/10 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted By: michael_d
2X6 -

Did you actually order and buy V3's or were they V2's? Your timeline does not match. Did you not order / buy them before the V3 announcement? Now, if you did in fact order / buy V3's and the M3's you received are V2's, I would be pissed as hell and would send them back COD. However, if you bought V2's, and you received V2's, but are pissed because they don't have the label, V3 driver and magnetic grills, well, you bought V2's and to call them V3's is a misrepresentation.


I started the process before the V3s were announced. For more than a month, I called Jean Claude every couple of days asking if they had any real wood finish M3s in Factory Outlet since I was buying these speakers for a friend's system and wanted to keep the cost down. Jean Claude would laugh and say "no." Finally, after more than a month of this, Brent picked up the phone and told me that real wood finishes were never offered through the FO. I was put off a bit and wondered why Jean Claude never told me that instead of chuckling at all my inquiries.

Brent told me to take a look at custom vinyl finishes which I did. The high gloss cherry looked very good. By that time the V3s had come out so I asked if they could make my M3s V3s with high gloss cherry finish. Sure, I was told. I was very much looking forward to getting a pair of M3V3s.

So, in answer to your question, michael, yes, I actually ordered M3V3s, no question.

I don't think there is anything in my posts which would suggest that I ordered anything other than a pair of M3V3s.

Michael aren’t you one of the guys on the Axiom customer council? Why are you suggesting that I misrepresented what happened here? Did you receive a call or PM from someone at Axiom or one of your co customer council members who suggested to you that I purchased V2s instead of V3s? Because if someone told you that, you’ve been misinformed.

AS to your suggestion that I am misrepresenting what happened here, where do you get off making such an accusation against me?

If you want me to post my exchange of emails with Axiom over this matter I’ll do it, however, I think they’ll come out looking even worse.

In the meantime, I'll now count you among the Axiom clean up squad.

I hope this shameless spinning and blaming the customer isn't the kind of customer service we should expect from Axiom now on.


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