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#315595 - 07/20/10 12:15 AM SPDIF to RCA Analog
PSpee Offline
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Hiya,

I'm trying to send audio from my 2 Denon receivers and my Shaw cable box to my Whole House Audio system.

I have a bunch of ethernet in the walls, but going analog to analog gives me a bit of hum, so I would like to go Digital thru the length.

That is, Output from my sources via the SPDIF connector, then convert the SPDIF to RCA Stereo right next to the whole home theater amp.

Anyone have an idea where I could pick up such a converter?

Thanks for any help or better ideas....

Peter

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#315602 - 07/20/10 12:47 AM Re: SPDIF to RCA Analog [Re: PSpee]
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Peter, your description of the proposed connections isn't entirely clear. What is the SPDIF connector? The pre-outs from your Denons are analog outputs and hum isn't a problem unless the connecting cables aren't adequately shielded.
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#315605 - 07/20/10 12:51 AM Re: SPDIF to RCA Analog [Re: JohnK]
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Also confused; doesn't your HT receiver have digital inputs?
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#315701 - 07/20/10 12:21 PM Re: SPDIF to RCA Analog [Re: Ken.C]
PSpee Offline
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Sorry, should have been clearer....

My Whole Home Audio Amp only has Analog RCA Stereo inputs, so eventually I need to get the audio to that amp in analog form.

I have Ethernet in the walls, so Analog audio over 60 feet gives some noise, and I have a weird grounding loop between the two amps. So, I'd like to go digital.

I have an Optical Digital Out on my Denon, and I also have an Optical to SPDIF converter to get the optical out to SPDIF (Coaxial Digital Out... I think it stands for Sony Philips Digital Interface Format)

So, the connection would go:

Denon Optical > Optical>Coaxial > 60 foot run in walls > ?????? > Analog Input to Whole Home Audio System.


It's the ????? that I need to find, or come up with a better solution.

Thanks!

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#315702 - 07/20/10 12:27 PM Re: SPDIF to RCA Analog [Re: PSpee]
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Ah, so you need an outboard DAC. Pretty available, although usually at absurd prices because they're targeted at audiophiles.
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#315729 - 07/20/10 02:15 PM Re: SPDIF to RCA Analog [Re: Ken.C]
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You can look at muxlab.com for baluns.

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#315834 - 07/20/10 09:40 PM Re: SPDIF to RCA Analog [Re: PSpee]
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That's clearer, Peter. Yes, that's what SPDIF stands for, but the reason that I questioned it was because I thought that you were thinking of using the Denon pre-outs, which are analog.

The basic premise here appears to be flawed: a digital connection doesn't necessarily help a hum problem. The digital 1s and 0s aren't themselves corrupted by the voltage at the hum frequency, but unless the entire connection is adequately shielded, the hum voltage will ride in and be amplified along with the real signals. If you use the same in-wall wiring which you believe is picking up hum, it'll continue to do so.
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#315843 - 07/20/10 10:15 PM Re: SPDIF to RCA Analog [Re: JohnK]
PSpee Offline
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Okay - thanks for both of those posts. I'll see what I can find.

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#315847 - 07/20/10 11:00 PM Re: SPDIF to RCA Analog [Re: PSpee]
Ken.C Offline
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Not if he's running optical cable.
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#315851 - 07/20/10 11:42 PM Re: SPDIF to RCA Analog [Re: Ken.C]
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Check out Blue Circle Audio. They have a product line called "Thingee" which might do what you want.
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