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Re: M22s, VP100, QS4s?
JohnK #317598 08/05/10 03:06 AM
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I agree with Adrian. I have both the VP100 and the QS4s, and I think I'm generally more pleased with the VP100. Hopefully soon I'll be replacing the 4s with 8s.


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Re: M22s, VP100, QS4s?
JohnK #317601 08/05/10 03:53 AM
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I have never been so indecisive about planning a purchase as I have been with axiom speakers. I think I have figured out a way to make purchasing the QS8s and the VP150 more viable by splitting my purchase in two. The first purchase will be the M22s with stands and sub. When I get enough money I will finish up my system with the QS8s and VP150.


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Re: M22s, VP100, QS4s?
Seekinganswers #317602 08/05/10 03:58 AM
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That always makes sense to me.


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Re: M22s, VP100, QS4s?
Ken.C #317604 08/05/10 04:31 AM
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If you plan on running a subwoofer all the time with your system I would seriously consider buying 3 M2 speakers for L/C/R. I recently got a pair to audition as wide speakers and found that when crossed over with my subwoofer both the M2s and M22s sounded the same. I could not tell them apart in an A/B comparison even though I knew which one I was hearing.

Another option would be to get an M2 as a center and get M22s for the mains.

If you must have a horizontal center then get the VP100. I don’t think the VP150 will make any difference in that size room and when you do move to a bigger room that really needs a larger center then it will also likely need larger L/R mains, meaning tower mains with a V180 center to match. Also I’ve used a M22 as a center with my M80s and preferred it to the VP150 because IMO it sounded more similar.

At least a M22 or M2 center can be pressed into another roll when you upgrade whereas a VP100 or VP150 would only really be good as a single rear speaker in a 6.1 configuration which I have tried and found didn’t work very well. With M22s and/or M2s as mains/center when you upgrade you could just buy one matching speaker and move them to the wide and rear positions or.

To recap my choice in order based on what you’ve said so far would be:

1. 3xM2s + 2xQS8s
2. 2xM22s + 1xM2 + 2xQS8s
3. 3xM22x + 2xQS8s
4. 2xM2s + 1xVP100 + 2xQS8s.
5. 2xM22s + 1xVP100 + 2xQS8s.

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Re: M22s, VP100, QS4s?
Seekinganswers #317607 08/05/10 05:19 AM
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Seek, I'd also suggest Dean's setup 2., when your budget permits. At this point, since your budget doesn't permit, I'd suggest going with the M22s and QS8s first, then later the sub and center. Without surrounds you really don't have an HT setup, while you can use a "phantom" center formed by the M22s. Also, I found the M22s to have adequate bass for many uses, although adding a good sub is highly desirable.


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Re: M22s, VP100, QS4s?
JohnK #317609 08/05/10 05:39 AM
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Missed one thing. Save yourself some money and either make your own stands for the bookshelf speakers or go someplace like Pier1 and buy something inexpensive.


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Re: M22s, VP100, QS4s?
grunt #317611 08/05/10 06:46 AM
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Yes, when the budget is a factor, speaker stands should have a pretty low priority in the allocation of the money. Consider temporary expedients such as boxes, stacks of magazines, etc., if necessary.


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Re: M22s, VP100, QS4s?
JohnK #317616 08/05/10 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted By: JohnK
Micah, I think that you're the new leader in the aggressive derailing category.


Who did I dethrone?

Let me just say in my defense that I only derail a thread when there is a cute, fuzzy animal of some sort on the tracks up ahead.

What can I say, I'm a humanitarian.


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Re: M22s, VP100, QS4s?
Micah #317640 08/05/10 04:03 PM
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This has really gotten me interested in using an M22 as a center channel. Would it work just as well if I mounted it vertically above the TV? The only question I have is the distance of the LCR speakers. The L and R will be close to a feet from the wall while I plan on mounting the center above the TV. I really want to mount all three M22s but I do not want wall-mounted speakers, per se. Is that possible?

Thanks for changing my mind regarding the speaker stands. Getting a cheap one or building one myself for the time being will free up some of the budget to go with the QS8s and, if not the M22 for a center, maybe the VP150. I am going to look on youtube now to see if I can find videos on making speaker stands.


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Re: M22s, VP100, QS4s?
Seekinganswers #317643 08/05/10 04:45 PM
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Hi,

That's exactly the set I bought 2 months ago, I'm extremely satisfied with it.

The M22 and the VP100 are really amazing, it's OK for the QS4 except a little lack of power for surrond in some case, I would be probably better with the QS8.

I bought a little sub for $120(Omage BBD-10)last week who did a very good job. Before that the M22 give enough base for music, not for movie.

My room size is 20X10X8 and i'm sitting 12 feet from the M22 and VP100.

Hope this information could help you

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