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Re: Axiom Mount failed, ruined large screen!
RickF #319181 08/19/10 10:10 PM
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Wow, that sucks. Is the screen covered by contents insurance? I'm sure Axiom will take care of the speaker.

I'm a little surprised there is only one mounting point on the center.


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Re: Axiom Mount failed, ruined large screen!
RickF #319184 08/19/10 10:15 PM
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and as usual, the timing of this is not good. I won't get into it but yeah, this sucks.


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Re: Axiom Mount failed, ruined large screen!
RickF #319185 08/19/10 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted By: RickF
Originally Posted By: CatBrat
After studying the picture of the mount on the wall, isn't the part that belongs in the speaker backwards? It looks like the little spikes were helping the speaker to separate from the bracket, instead of the other way around.

The threaded insert was probably inserted into the MDF from the inside of the speaker cabinet at the factory and the spikes are more than likely pointed in that direction to help with ease of installation ... I would imagine there was a larger head on the threaded insert that was used to help hold the insert in place with an indention in the MDF inside of the cabinet for the head. Looks to me like maybe the head broke loose from the rest of the insert.

Only my guess.


Dang Newf it's great to see you again ... it's been forever and I'm sorry to hear about the issue here.


I think you might be right. There is something inside my speaker rattling loose now. I need to take back off see what it is.


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Re: Axiom Mount failed, ruined large screen!
RickF #319188 08/19/10 10:47 PM
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I always felt that a threaded insert on an almost 22lb speaker (Is that a VP150?) was right at the limit. I am very sorry for your misfortune. As other have said, I would try home insurance....


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Re: Axiom Mount failed, ruined large screen!
wbedford #319191 08/19/10 11:10 PM
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I using the steel bracket for my q4's but nowhere does it state any weight restriction...are there any?

Re: Axiom Mount failed, ruined large screen!
billy p #319199 08/19/10 11:28 PM
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it's a vp150 and bracket says 40lbs

Problem is two things. MDF is too weak, little screw thingy is too small, and there really needs to be two mounting points



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Re: Axiom Mount failed, ruined large screen!
Newf #319204 08/19/10 11:52 PM
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This is unfortunate and definately the first time someone has had such an issue since I've been on the forums. I'm sure that Axiom did lots of testing many years ago to design the bracket/inserts and test the capacity. MDF actually is totall fine for this application and used by most speaker manufacturers. Still, I would be interested to see what they tell you, have you contacted them yet?


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Re: Axiom Mount failed, ruined large screen!
SirQuack #319209 08/20/10 12:16 AM
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When I mounted my VP150 over my screen, I did not trust the single attachment point. I ended up building a bracket out of red oak the width of the speaker. It is secured to the VP with the single threaded speaker insert. The mount is then attached to my wall with two Axiom metal brackets. No, I don’t have a picture to post, but can later if anyone wants. In short, there was no way I was going to trust that single mounting point without additional support.

Re: Axiom Mount failed, ruined large screen!
michael_d #319213 08/20/10 12:23 AM
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I'm with you Michael, seems to me that mounting a speaker of this size from a single point with a medium size bolt is asking a lot. My instinct tells me that weight needs to be distributed over a larger area.


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Re: Axiom Mount failed, ruined large screen!
RickF #319232 08/20/10 01:38 AM
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if there were two mounting points, all other issues would be irrelevant as the weight would distributed better. The irony of this happening now is that I had someone come to the house to hear my setup weekend, someone interested in Axiom that I bumped into one day, anyways we were talking about the center channel being where it was and all. In my setup you just do not hear the vp 150 very well when it was below screen, hence putting it above, but I said it hasn't moved since day one and ....poof now this.

I love my setup, I mean I love it and brag to others about axiom constantly. That being said I always had a concern about that center channel up high but could not avoid it. I always said that if there was a weak point in my setup in my setup, it wa that the center channel was not up to snuff with the surrounds. Guess I was wrong, the weak poimt was the 50cent insert holding th espeaker to the bracket. Oh well, stuff happens - there wasn't a mark on my speakers until today.

Last edited by newf; 08/20/10 01:48 AM.

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