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#324741 - 10/04/10 05:23 PM Killing power to BluRay player harmful?
snazzed Offline
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Hey all:

Question of the day: Is killing the power to an optical player harmful?

My reciever has power outlets on it that are, of course, controled by the receiver power. Right now I have my Panasonic BRD player plugged into it and when I'm done at night I simply turn off the Reciever which kills the power to the player.

I know its better to "Shut Down" a computer rather than just kill the power. I should have no similar concern with a BRD Player, should I?

Thanks
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#324742 - 10/04/10 05:31 PM Re: Killing power to BluRay player harmful? [Re: snazzed]
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Does it keep all of your settings when you completely cut the power to it? That would be my only concern.
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#324744 - 10/04/10 05:42 PM Re: Killing power to BluRay player harmful? [Re: Wid]
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I don't think there's any physical harm that might come of it.

Computers typically shouldn't be shut down hard because there is a process that it goes through to close programs, etc., in preparation for its next start.

Projectors and some DLP TVs should be hard switched off, because the fan continues to run after powering down. But this is likely not an issue with you BR player. So long as you are happy with the way the system performs (and you don't have the issues Wid fears), you're probably fine.

My question is why you would do it? Is it for the single button convenience at the end of the night? If so, then you'll need to assess the risk of harm (I think minimal) as juxtaposed with the benefit of that convenience. Given the cost of BR players (which continue to plummet), it's probably not going to be a terribly expensive gamble, even if you were to lose.

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#324749 - 10/04/10 06:04 PM Re: Killing power to BluRay player harmful? [Re: Capn_Pickard]
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BD players do have file systems which store various bits of information saved by the BD, or pulled from the Net. It could be possible that the player might be in the middle of updating on of those files when the power is cut. If that were to happen then the entire file system could end up corrupted.

BD players are embedded computers, and should be treated as such.
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#324751 - 10/04/10 06:24 PM Re: Killing power to BluRay player harmful? [Re: ClubNeon]
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I'll bet that not many people know that. How many players are network aware/connected?

Personally I have not connected my PS3 to the network. I prefer to choose the time for updates and I don't trust manufacturers to not collect data without informing me first.
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#324759 - 10/04/10 07:35 PM Re: Killing power to BluRay player harmful? [Re: fredk]
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I would recommend shutting of the device appropriately and not plugging it into your receiver.
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#324763 - 10/04/10 09:03 PM Re: Killing power to BluRay player harmful? [Re: SirQuack]
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I don't know if it's related to the topic, but I continue to have issues with my Oppo 981. Oppo has told me twice now, as part of the troubleshooting protocol, to unplug the player from ant filter, switch, conditioner, etc. and plug it directly into an outlet. We'll see if this helps with some of the issues I'm seeing.
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#324808 - 10/05/10 08:28 AM Re: Killing power to BluRay player harmful? [Re: a401classic]
Ya_basta Offline
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Originally Posted By: ClubNeon
BD players do have file systems which store various bits of information saved by the BD, or pulled from the Net. It could be possible that the player might be in the middle of updating on of those files when the power is cut. If that were to happen then the entire file system could end up corrupted.

BD players are embedded computers, and should be treated as such.


Very good information, as usual, Chris. If it's not connected to the net, there shouldn't be any issues. Prior to getting my APC unit, I utilized the outlet on my 3801, and 3808. I only plugged my CD player into it because you will lose your settings (not a concern for my CD player) if there's no power for an extended period of time, as Rick mentioned.

Originally Posted By: a401classic
I don't know if it's related to the topic, but I continue to have issues with my Oppo 981. Oppo has told me twice now, as part of the troubleshooting protocol, to unplug the player from ant filter, switch, conditioner, etc. and plug it directly into an outlet. We'll see if this helps with some of the issues I'm seeing.


Scott, did they explain their reasoning? I have my 983 plugged into my APC and it works flawlessly. I also don't know what problem you're having.
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#324809 - 10/05/10 09:02 AM Re: Killing power to BluRay player harmful? [Re: ClubNeon]
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+1 for what Clubneon said. Hidef players (and an increasingling high number of appliances) are pretty much computers and should be treated with care with regards to power. If some configuration file is corrupted, the device may refuse to boot.
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#324923 - 10/06/10 07:18 AM Re: Killing power to BluRay player harmful? [Re: Ya_basta]
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Originally Posted By: wheelz999
Scott, did they explain their reasoning? I have my 983 plugged into my APC and it works flawlessly. I also don't know what problem you're having.


Here's their official reply: "The player itself was designed to do 110~240V 50/60Hz power switching. Sometimes when going through a power conditioner or switch the player does not receive the proper power and it ultimately fails to turn on properly. As a diagnostic tool, we recommend connecting the player direct to your walled power outlet when experiencing issues with the player not turning on properly."

Cam here's the link to my Oppo power issue
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