Re: Harsh sound at reference level
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If you read the thread on AVS, I thought he was going to hide the speakers more than he did. I was hoping he would build the corners of the room to contain the in cabinet m60s. That's why I recommended the m60s. Now since the light from the projector reflects off the speaker he's going to have to wrap the speaker in cloth somehow. Mario's got a plan to hide everything a little better than it is now. I don't argue with Mario. He's got that woodworking figured out.
We couldn't find a place to hide more than 1 subwoofer the size of a baby hippo. 1 sounds pretty good to me...
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That man must be 'Super Mario' from the looks of his handiwork! You know another possibility if budget is a concern is to maybe check out an Outlaw Audio M2200 Monoblock for the VP180 and add a couple more later for the mains. My thoughts are that by taking care of the power needs of the VP180 in that system it will take a huge load off of the NAD, and the NAD will probably run the M60 mains and surrounds just fine ... only my thoughts! Outlaw Audio Model 2200
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That man must be 'Super Mario' from the looks of his handiwork! You know another possibility if budget is a concern is to maybe check out an Outlaw Audio M2200 Monoblock for the VP180 and add a couple more later for the mains. My thoughts are that by taking care of the power needs of the VP180 in that system it will take a huge load off of the NAD, and the NAD will probably run the M60 mains and surrounds just fine ... only my thoughts! Outlaw Audio Model 2200 That was another option I was considering, but would it be better to run the VP180 on a monoblock, or to run the m60s on a two channel amp? I was thinking it was the VP180 that is the odd man out of all the speakers so it made sense to run it on a monoblock amp. But, if I ran it on a different amp, would it sound different then the m60s?
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If you are talking about running the VP180 on the 80wpc NAD and get a 2ch amp for the M60s, I'd most definitely get a single monoblock for the 4ohm VP180. IMO with that system the VP180 is what needs to be mindful whenever considering power, the 60s and the QS8s are an easy drive and I think the NAD at 80wpc will drive them just fine.
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Since it is the dynamic peaks which are causing the problem, the power requirements of the M60's are probably exceeding much greater than 80 watts of power in those instances as well. The safer purchase would be to get external amplification for the front 3.IMO you might be still at risk of damaging your speakers or receiver just going with external amplification with the centre if you continue with those same volume levels.
The Outlaw amp is some really nice gear.
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Where the heck is Wid? Rotel.
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Here's an iphone photo of the Axioms across the front. Remember that the EP800 is dead and was replaced with the SVS PB13 Ultra he already had on hand, so this is an old photo he sent me as a teaser. More photos will come later.
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Where the heck is Wid? Rotel. A nice Rotel amp would do the trick, that's for sure.
Rick
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I would go with an A1400-8
Jason M80 v2 VP160 v3 QS8 v2 PB13 Ultra Denon 3808 Samsung 85" Q70
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Did you have any discussion regarding the ep800 with axiom at all? I wonder if it was shipping problems or a manufacturing defect.
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