Axiom Home Page Forums General Discussion The Water Cooler Regarding the new TSA pat down procedure.

There's no basis or legitimate reason for this crap. What is there to be afraid of? A threat that's uncontroversial and incontrovertible?

I could easily carry on, and was going to, but remarkably bit my tongue .

I'll leave it up to Mike Prysner , an Iraq veteran, and someone who has firsthand experience. His words, at the very least, warrant an audience. Take 10 minutes out of your time and watch both parts one and two.

I musta missed that class, or been daydreaming. Clue me in, por favor.

"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

I've seen the quote written various ways, but the resulting point is obviously the same.

So does the TSA hire homosexuals? I'd be f*cking pissed if I was required to let a gay guy stick his hands down my pants and grab my junk before boarding a plane.

Almost sounds like the average American citizen needs to be come a terrorist in order to combat the TSA.

Squirt shaving cream down the front of your pants, before getting in line.

I would assume that the TSA, like any other US employer, is not allowed to discriminate based on sexual orientation.

David, with all due respect, I find that post very offensive. As a juxtaposition, would you turn down a homosexual surgeon if you're in need of a lifesaving procedure on your testicles?

Homosexuals, like heterosexuals, can, and do, carry out the same occupation without a physical attachment that could possibly result from it.

I'll state the same position I did earlier: If someone giving me a patdown, or even a grope, saves a planeload of people, myself included, who cares?

And I really wouldn't care if it's a man, woman, gay man, gay woman or transgender goat. What they're doing is NOT sexual.

As for the image scanning, how many body outlines would you have to see before it becomes ho-hum? Maybe the 500 that you'll have on your first day? By the end of the first week, I'd be concerned that the people viewing the scans aren't paying ENOUGH attention to them.

Maybe I'm biased because I've worked in a hospital and Joyce still does in her career. Even seeing the REAL thing (not a scan), up close and personal, is not a sexual thing.

I can tell you just from photographing nudes, that I'm thinking about lighting, composition, whether someone will trip over that lightstand.... and that's with a cute girl for a couple of hours.

It's no big thing, people. We all have one. Yours really isn't so special as to entitle the security person to go home at the end of the day thinking about yours...

That's not my issue with it. Personally, I have no problem, really. It's the vindictiveness and false security of it all. I'm not going to say online what I said in person, since I don't need DHS knocking on my door, but suffice to say, why are other areas not as well protected as an airplane? If, in fact, that is protection. TSA keeps skating where the puck has been.

Finally, I'll say this: fear the ass bomber.

I can tell you that I personally wouldn't have made it in the photography business.