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Recommended speaker toe-in
#328145 11/12/10 03:58 AM
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What is the recommended speaker toe-in for M60s? Putting my speakers back together and they are now ~10ft apart from each other and ~11.5ft from the main listening position. Previously I had them toed-in so that they aimed approximately 1 seat (~1.5-2ft) to either side of the main listening position. I didn't emply any science when I initially did this - it simply looked right. But I didn't play around much with their placement best since I'm not really sure I could tell the difference smile They seemed to sound good anyways.

What toe-in do others use/suggest for M60s?

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icehawk21 #328146 11/12/10 04:00 AM
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However they sound good. Every room and placement is different.


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icehawk21 #328147 11/12/10 04:03 AM
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Bryan, the general idea is to have the tweeters pointed at your ears.


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Ken.C #328150 11/12/10 04:12 AM
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Like Ken says toe-in is dependent on the situation. One of the best ways I know of to find the right toe-in is to sit in the sweet spot while someone else adjusts the speakers while you listen. However, this still has it’s problems since different tracks can sound better or worse than others with the same amount of toe-in. Also if you are adjusting for multiple seating this doesn’t account for the effects on the other seats.

One way to start is listen with no toe-in at all. Then point the speakers straight at you. While listening have someone change the angle of the speakers and find the place in between where you most like how the front soundstage sounds.

Also be aware that what sounds best for 2ch might not sound the best with multi-channel. And if you are using DSP to convert 2ch to multi-channel you might also want to play around with the DSP setting for the width and depth of the front soundstage.

Sorry just to many variables for a simple answer.




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grunt #328193 11/12/10 05:21 PM
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every room is different Bryan, you will need to experiment. I found that if I have my M80's pointing about 2ft behind my head it sounds great. My M80's are about 11-12ft apart and I tried many variations before settling on this.


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SirQuack #328201 11/12/10 06:32 PM
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Our 80s are toed in about like Randy's, seems like I aimed for a four-five foot spot behind the listening position and if I remember correctly I came about that target zone from the Rives room setup recommendation and ours are also 11-12 feet apart.

Speaker placement can be fun, just be patient and give each movement that you like a day or two and whenever you get the right potion nailed, you'll know it.


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RickF #328275 11/13/10 12:10 AM
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Experiment with different toe in options and use whatever you prefer.


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terzaghi #328279 11/13/10 12:14 AM
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Bryan, I have zero toe in with my M80s.


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jakewash #328284 11/13/10 12:51 AM
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heck, you could even try toe out.


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SirQuack #328286 11/13/10 12:59 AM
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I don't have any tow-in on my M80's either. Oh, wait, I don't have any M80's.

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