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You are so right, Jack. I see it every day. I once did work in a 1980's townhouse. If someone were sitting on the 1st fl. toilet, they could actually feel it move when someone walked across the livingroom floor. NONE of the floor joists was attached at either end!
In a 100+ yr old house this summeer, I found, in the corner of a 2nd floor room, "a" 6 x 6 post that was actually 4 randomly dimensioned pieces, aboout 20-30" each, just sitting on top of each other. Not one toenail.
A mid-high-end architect house from the 50's. New addition to the kitchen. Where the new ceiling met the wall, NONE of the drywall had been attached anything. The whole side of the ceiling/wall joint was free-floating.
Far more common and worse: deferred maintenance.
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Brian, I believe for starters it looks like you have an illegal electrical junction box in that pic as well, it shouldn't be hidden in the ceiling. They should have mounted that box so the front opening would have been exposed on the ceiling and then used a cover plate over it.
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You're bang on about the electrical.
But then, I once convinced a client in an 80 yr old house that they needed sconces above the new mantel I had just made for them. When I dug in to start making holes for the electrician, I found that there had already been sconces there. The boxes were there, so were all the wires. They were merely secured with electrical tape, on a still live circuit. They had just slapped plaster over them and called it a day.
I'm sure they'd been like that for decades and the house didn't burn down. There are lots of instances where existing code violations aren't really gonna cause any serious problems. You just have to be sure which ones they are and asses the risks. intelligently.
Last edited by BobKay; 12/10/10 04:25 PM.
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I'm going to be rewiring that entire room with new 12 gauge wire, and putting in additional circuits for the HT, so those old boxes will be going away.
As an aside question. Is there any reason to even have an exhaust fan in a bathroom, that only has a toilet and a sink? I'm guessing not. I think the exhaust is only to exhaust any steam and water vapors coming from a shower. I have one in the upper bathroom, but I never use it.
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Bob, I think I should just pay you to go through my place looking for issues that I may not know of!
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As an aside question. Is there any reason to even have an exhaust fan in a bathroom, that only has a toilet and a sink? Two words - burrito night. Bren R.
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Bob, I think I should just pay you to go through my place looking for issues that I may not know of! Isn't that what the doctor is for?
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I want Bob to handle my basement. JP can handle my attic.
Straight line alert: Get at it, boys!
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The only reasonable argument for owning a gun is to protect yourself from the police.
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I like how this derailed into This Old House... Fortunately, my joist is part of a flat roof Eichler and there's nothing up top except 1" redwood ceiling boards and 2" of sprayed foam insulation. We had to undertake the roof replacement because the previous owners installed a roof mounted A/C and placed it above the kitchen area w/ ZERO roof enforcement. Let's just say that part of the roof had a lot of puddles.
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