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Re: In/on wall VP150 and M2 comparison
bdpf #332242 12/22/10 08:34 PM
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I was thinking m22's for left and right and m2 for center. I could probably fit a m22 for the centre. My screen is 36 inches off the ground - not sure if that would make the centre m22 sit too low??

My room is about 15 deep x 12.5 wide x 8. 2 rows of seating. edge of front row seat is ~6 feet from screen/speaker. Listener's ears about ~6' 8" from screen/speaker.

Distance between center and main would be about 3 - 3.5 feet



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Re: In/on wall VP150 and M2 comparison
pheare #332243 12/22/10 08:51 PM
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M2 will be a better match to the M22s than M3.


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Re: In/on wall VP150 and M2 comparison
bdpf #332254 12/22/10 09:50 PM
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2 rows of seating this will be tiered correct? If so then you might want to consider dual m2's, one above and one below the screen. The top speaker will hit the second row better.


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Re: In/on wall VP150 and M2 comparison
pheare #332256 12/22/10 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted By: pheare
I had to read this thread twice (and the one referenced in the first post once). Yhe m2 sounds better than the vp150. wow.

I get that people are saying the vertical arrangement is better - but what about the fact the vp150 has 3 more speakers? I guess they don't come into play?

I am seriously considering picking up some mains and a center in the next month or so. That is about a $260 savings over a vp150.

What about using an m3 instead of an m2?


The extra drivers in the VP150 help give the speaker a higher sensitivity rating than the M2. However the M2 can reach lower than the VP150 and has the advantage of better horizontal dispersion than the VP150.

As I said originally, the VP150 is not a bad speaker by any means, it's just that the M2 performed better in my room with my setup - YMMV.

The main thing with a center (vertical or horizontal) is that it tonally match your left and right channels. I'm simplifying this, but both the VP150 and M2 use the same drivers as the M22's which are my main L&R channel speakers. An M22 would be even more ideal as a center but that is just not a physical option for me. So to answer your question, I would only use the M3 as a center channel if your L&R channel were also M3's (or maybe the M50's which I believe use the same drivers as the M3) so that they are all closely tonally matched.

Given what I now know, I would definitely make extra effort to accommodate a vertical center channel speaker (or two as Jay suggested).


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Re: In/on wall VP150 and M2 comparison
jakewash #332270 12/23/10 12:32 AM
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Yes tiered seating. 2nd row is raised 8 inches.

unfortunately, while my receiver will support dual centers, I didn't think to run wiring for dual centers. All my gear is in a room behind my back wall. Plus I only have about 14 inches between the top of my screen and the roof. only about 11 or 12 inches until the frame of my screen.

Plus I have a bulkhead in the middle of the room that would probably interfere with a top center anyways.

Works fine right now with my 12 year old Energy center.

Any thoughts on using an m22 as a center when the bottom of my screen is 36 inches. means the m22 would be about 14 inches off the ground. Which I guess isn't too bad given the m22 stand is 16 inches.

Re: In/on wall VP150 and M2 comparison
cb919 #332273 12/23/10 12:45 AM
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Originally Posted By: cb919

The extra drivers in the VP150 help give the speaker a higher sensitivity rating than the M2. However the M2 can reach lower than the VP150 and has the advantage of better horizontal dispersion than the VP150.


Got it. Thanks.

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pheare #332276 12/23/10 02:21 AM
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PH, my view would be that the slightly lower position of the M22 center wouldn't be very significant, and that tilting it slightly backward would further lessen any difference.


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Re: In/on wall VP150 and M2 comparison
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John covered it smile I will only add that the M2 and M22 would have the tweeter and the top driver in the same position height wise under the screen so really no difference between the 2.


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Re: In/on wall VP150 and M2 comparison
jakewash #332795 12/30/10 03:59 AM
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I have a question..
Never been satisfied with my 150 unless I am sitting dead center. The side couches(off axis) volume is so low that the m80's just drown it out. I have been looking at other brands for centers.. I could fit an m2 or m3 in the spot where the 150 resides. Any thoughts on one or the other to give me the best off axis and blend with the m80's?

Re: In/on wall VP150 and M2 comparison
turbo16v #332799 12/30/10 04:39 AM
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M3 would have the best tonal match only with the M50. M2 for everything else.

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