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Yeah, I'm sure I'll be paying too much simply for the balanced connections, but I like the connections so much more than RCA, and I'm paranoid about noise in my system. I don't like that the general advice for turning the volume up if you have fan noise/hiss/slight humming that you want to drown out. I'll also do whatever sound isolation I can afford in the basement, too. The less ambient noise I have, the more headroom I'll have on my amp.
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CV, I'd go for the Onkyo PR-SC5508 then. I'm not sure anything else will come close and still give you MultiXT32, Sub HT 32 & balanced inputs. BTW, all my music I listen is flac from my pc direct to my 3008, it's awesome for sure. 
M80's, QS8's, M22's, CHT SHO-10, Dual CHT SS-18.1's, Onkyo NR3008, Mitsubishi WD-73740
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The fact that a source outputs at 1080p in no way reduces the need for ISF Calibration. But does reduce if not remove the need to have it per port. And it was more the HDMI part of my statement that was important. The digital levels output by modern devices are spot on from model to model, make to make. Black is black, and white is white, and all the in betweens fall into place. So ISF calibration can be applied at the output by an external device. Though if you do still have analog devices, there will be issues with that, because they all vary slightly from one another. And per device tuning is needed. The simple solution to that, is don't use analog devices.
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I agree that RCA is an abomination, and should have never escaped from the inside of record players.
Pioneer PDP-5020FD, Marantz SR6011
Axiom M5HP, VP160HP, QS8
Sony PS4, surround backs
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Dana, do you use the native Onkyo UI to access your music collection, then? How is it? I don't have (need?) a networked receiver, but I've always been curious about the user experience.
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Dana, do you use the native Onkyo UI to access your music collection, then? How is it? I don't have (need?) a networked receiver, but I've always been curious about the user experience. Tom, yes. Push "netusb" on my remote and all my flac folders from my pc show up right on the big screen. Use the remote to browse the folders and start rocking Plus I have really been loving internet radio the last few days, Pandora is killer, even thou it's 128kbs, with dynamic eq & music optimizer, it sounds fantastic, (sounds great without it for that matter). Better than FM radio for sure. Dana
M80's, QS8's, M22's, CHT SHO-10, Dual CHT SS-18.1's, Onkyo NR3008, Mitsubishi WD-73740
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Cool. Thanks!
Yeah, I'm thinking about upgrading to the pay version of both Pandora and Wolfgang's Vault to get higher quality streams.
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Early rumors of the Denon 4812 would have handled that list but I believe Denon is now resolved to the 4312 as being the top of the line. I would bet the latest top of the line Marantz pre/pro (8006?)will do what you are looking for as it usually is the non-amped equivalent to the top Denon avr offering.
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The fact that a source outputs at 1080p in no way reduces the need for ISF Calibration. But does reduce if not remove the need to have it per port. And it was more the HDMI part of my statement that was important. The digital levels output by modern devices are spot on from model to model, make to make. Black is black, and white is white, and all the in betweens fall into place. So ISF calibration can be applied at the output by an external device. Though if you do still have analog devices, there will be issues with that, because they all vary slightly from one another. And per device tuning is needed. The simple solution to that, is don't use analog devices. You have a point about the ISF monitor calibration capabilities of these AVRs and Pre-pros. As they do not seem to separate the input (source) adjustments from the output (monitor) adjustments they do not look like they would be very good for doing an ISF calibration of your monitor. They can be good for upscaling and deinterlacing and for making minor adjustments to correct for any source variations or other issues. As you say, ISF calibration is better done with an external video processor or in the monitor if it has ISF calibration capability.
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Yeah, I'm thinking about upgrading to the pay version of both Pandora and Wolfgang's Vault to get higher quality streams. I was almost going to do that the other day, but I noted that Pandora only provides the higher bitrate from their website, not through other devices such as the TiVo that I use to feed Pandora through the Axioms. So, I'll wait for now... 
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