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Ok, what about my electric stapler. When I use a smaller(thinner) extension cord, the staples go part way in. When I Upgrade to a bigger cord, they countersink! Must be magic! And to continue that to its illogical conclusion, using one of those $800 power cables the staples will go all the way through the table! No. The long, thin extension cable was enough of a restriction that the electromagnet couldn't pull enough current from the wall. But a properly sized cord allowed it to function correctly. That's all you need is a properly spec'd cable to insure proper function. Anything more will add nothing. I spent a lot of money on my HDMI cables. The longest one cost over $30. I know I could have gotten the same flawless image with a less expensive cable, but I like the company, their principles, and their build quality. So I forked out the extra bucks.
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Blue Jeans Cable USA made Belden bonded HDMI cables are the best in the world. In fact they broke the HDMI record. HDMI cables are not made equal over long distances, though if you are running anything under 10 feet even the highest gauge, 3 dollar HDMI cables from Monoprice will work.
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I just tie hairs together end to end and use those for wires.
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Just to shim in the HDMI cables discussion, I also used to think that there all made equal until recently. All my HDMI cables are monoprice cables except one. They range from the 6ft cable to the 2ft and have all done their job flawlessly except in one case, the connection from my WDTV live to the receiver. For some reason, when I use one of the monoprice cable (I've tried a few with different length), I get this "sparkling" or "white snow" (similar to what some people get when a vacuum get plugged into the same circuit as the TV). I don't know if it's static, shielding problem but no matter the cable, it always happens. When I put an old 12ft Belkin cable that I had on hand, the problem disappeared. It's been like this for a year now without problem. A few times I tried to put back the monoprice cables but the problem comes back. I can't say I fully understand what's going on...and since I never had problem with the other cables (other than their stiffness), I never replaced them.
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The "sparkles" are exactly what you get when you use an HDMI cable that isn't up to the task. Be it because of a defect, or just too long for the design. (Go even farther out of spec, and you won't get a picture at all, because the initial handshake fails.)
All HDMI cables are not equal. But if the one you're using delivers a sparkle-free picture, that's as good as it's going to get.
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Its not a shielding problem, those are just a few of the artifacts that you can get when the HDMI cable can't pass a signal properly over its distance. This is what separates the men from the boys.
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The distance in my case was pretty short, I tried 2/3/6ft cables and it only happens with this particular connection.
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I'd say in that case it's either the driving or receiving circuit of one of the devices that is marginal. Combining it with a higher loss cable was enough to push it over the edge.
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You're probably right and it's probably the WDTV.
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Just to shim in the HDMI cables discussion, I also used to think that there all made equal until recently. All my HDMI cables are monoprice cables except one. They range from the 6ft cable to the 2ft and have all done their job flawlessly except in one case, the connection from my WDTV live to the receiver. For some reason, when I use one of the monoprice cable (I've tried a few with different length), I get this "sparkling" or "white snow" (similar to what some people get when a vacuum get plugged into the same circuit as the TV). I don't know if it's static, shielding problem but no matter the cable, it always happens. When I put an old 12ft Belkin cable that I had on hand, the problem disappeared. It's been like this for a year now without problem. A few times I tried to put back the monoprice cables but the problem comes back. I can't say I fully understand what's going on...and since I never had problem with the other cables (other than their stiffness), I never replaced them. Hmmm, very strange. I wonder if it was a bad batch or the particular model of cable. Where did you purchase them from? I have several Monoprice HDMI cables, 3-6ft and 1-15 foot in length coming out of my cable box all connected to an AVR and they all work fine. I was particularly concerned about the longer one, especially in the case of the cable box where connections AND performance can be real finnicky, however, I have had them all connected for over a year now with no issues and of course, none of the picture anomalies you describe.
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