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#348712 - 05/19/11 04:33 PM Re: Emotiva or AudioSource [Re: tomtuttle]
SBrown Offline
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I went from a Sherwood Newcastle receiver to Onkyo seperates and it is a HUGE difference in sound quality.

It is like(car analogy,lol)getting an amp for your car stereo, it will make a big difference also. I don't know why people just don't get it,it's sad really!

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#348713 - 05/19/11 04:35 PM Re: Emotiva or AudioSource [Re: Ya_basta]
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I was "blown-away" by the differences in a Cheap Sony and a Pioneer Elite, but the differences between these 2 receivers are like "Day and Night". LOL.

There are a lot of differences between the technology in these 2 receivers. The Sony just doesn't have the available power to peep, whereas the Pioneer does.


Edited by CatBrat (05/19/11 04:36 PM)

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#348714 - 05/19/11 04:43 PM Re: Emotiva or AudioSource [Re: CatBrat]
BlueJays1 Offline
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Get as much amplification as you can afford.
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#348716 - 05/19/11 04:46 PM Re: Emotiva or AudioSource [Re: CatBrat]
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i think that if you were to listen to some good quality receiver vs the same system, but using separate amps instead, the great majority of the time, the second system would win easily in SQ.

the reason for that is that the receiver has a comparatively puny power supply and it has a hard time putting out what is demanded vs separate amps who each have their own power supplies (for a much larger total current capacity) all loafing along when presented the same signals.

anyone agrees on this?
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#348722 - 05/19/11 05:01 PM Re: Emotiva or AudioSource [Re: J. B.]
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Ah! The "headroom controversy." Neg. orange unreleased B-side?

I'm not entitled to an opinion, really, but the more headroom the merrier.

+1
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#348725 - 05/19/11 05:19 PM Re: Emotiva or AudioSource [Re: BobKay]
bdpf Offline
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The external amp benefits seem to only be valid when listening at very high levels, when the maximum output of a receiver will reach its max. Is that correct or for those that have it do you still hear a difference even at low volume?
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#348726 - 05/19/11 05:21 PM Re: Emotiva or AudioSource [Re: BobKay]
SBrown Offline
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It's not just headroom, it's better sounding at ALL levels with seperates.

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#348728 - 05/19/11 05:46 PM Re: Emotiva or AudioSource [Re: SBrown]
tomtuttle Offline
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But, why?
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#348731 - 05/19/11 06:16 PM Re: Emotiva or AudioSource [Re: tomtuttle]
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That's my question. And I have yet to see any level matched double blind (whatever your definition) between a receiver and an amp running within their parameters. Please, someone do this and convince me! Even better with measurements at different volume levels.
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#348740 - 05/19/11 06:52 PM Re: Emotiva or AudioSource [Re: Ken.C]
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i also want to see the reasons why "it's better sounding at ALL levels with seperates."

(separates) ;-)

to me, there is a smell of "audiophilitis" in here...

(wow, i think i just invented a word!)


Edited by J. B. (05/19/11 06:54 PM)
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