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#356817 - 10/17/11 04:56 PM Re: Sneak Peak: VP160 Prototype [Re: tomtuttle]
Ajax Offline

Registered: 12/30/03
Posts: 6319
Loc: Cleveland, Ohio
Originally Posted By: tomtuttle
Jack has now been "satisfied" by the pictures of the speaker and its exposed ports.

Just sayin'

My legal first name may be John, but unlike "Big John," I have no port fetish. It is merely the proportions which are satisfying. I'm completely neutral regarding the ports. grin

For the youthfully uninitiated, we used to have a very nice forum member named Big John who made some unfortunate remark about the attractiveness of the ports in the speakers/subwoofers which we relentlessly and mercilessly never allowed him to forget. Still miss him. He was a good guy.

"People generally quarrel because they cannot argue." - G. K. Chesterton

#356818 - 10/17/11 05:08 PM Re: Sneak Peak: VP160 Prototype [Re: Amie]
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Registered: 03/23/10
Posts: 3541
Loc: Massachusetts Badlands
Originally Posted By: Amie
Although Dan and Mark bring up excellent easy-to-understand measuring options, I'm still smarting over some comments made in the Shoutbox about our beloved national institution, Canadian Tire, by he-who-shall-remain-anonymous. Because of those ill-advised words, we will not be giving measurements in inches. We will be giving them in Canadian Tire Money, and you'll have to figure out the conversion to 'US Customary Units' yourself!

"Metric. It works boys."

In all fairness, Amie, I started the Canadian Tire thing. Not that I don't like seeing Fred get bitch-slapped, but I'd rather it be for his own mischief. Generally speaking, if there's someone here dissing Canada, it's usually me. Please know that I am always smiling when I do it. Ha! "You people" make me laugh.

Edited by BobKay (10/17/11 05:09 PM)
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#356819 - 10/17/11 05:11 PM Re: Sneak Peak: VP160 Prototype [Re: FordPrefect]
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Probably because we have no idea what you're talking about, JB!
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#356820 - 10/17/11 05:17 PM Re: Sneak Peak: VP160 Prototype [Re: J. B.]
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Funny you should bring that up at this time. I am writing a piece on the unintuitive workings of cabinet bracing later this month. It will answer your question.
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#356823 - 10/17/11 05:18 PM Re: Sneak Peak: VP160 Prototype [Re: Ken.C]
terzaghi Offline

Registered: 04/04/07
Posts: 4863
Loc: Tulsa, Oklahoma
I guess you are right. somewhere I thought I read something about driver size and numbers matching the m60's so I thought that may have been the goal.

In any event, I think this is definitely a welcome addition to the axiom center channel line up!

I wonder how it will compare to the vp180 or vp150 in listening tests?

#356825 - 10/17/11 05:23 PM Re: Sneak Peak: VP160 Prototype [Re: terzaghi]
CatBrat Offline

Registered: 08/05/09
Posts: 6015
Loc: Milky Way Galaxy
I'm just await for 2 events to come to a convergence.

1) The in-cabinet version is available.
2) I have the $500-600 available to purchase it.

I bet this would sound fine /dandy /groovy /far-out /awesome /bitchin' /good with my current setup.

#356829 - 10/17/11 05:35 PM Re: Sneak Peak: VP160 Prototype [Re: Amie]
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That looks at least 10x better than the original prototype. Nice work!
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#356835 - 10/17/11 06:11 PM Re: Sneak Peak: VP160 Prototype [Re: pmbuko]
tomtuttle Offline

Registered: 06/20/03
Posts: 8462
Loc: Tacoma
Really, Peter? Because I think it looks 17% worse than the original prototype.
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#356846 - 10/17/11 08:25 PM Re: Sneak Peak: VP160 Prototype [Re: tomtuttle]
chesseroo Offline

Registered: 05/13/02
Posts: 5117
Loc: western canada
Originally Posted By: tomtuttle
Really, Peter? Because I think it looks 17% worse than the original prototype.

I calculated 17.86% myself.
"Those who preach the myths of audio are ignorant of truth."

#356848 - 10/17/11 09:02 PM Re: Sneak Peak: VP160 Prototype [Re: Amie]
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Amie, the newer prototype is looking good(to be precise, 73.47% better). From the relative proportions it appears to be roughly 31" wide.

Brian, even if you were "born a pessimist" there's no need for "guessing" about possible problems here. As has been pointed out several times, the W T/M W configuration is well-established as a superior horizontal center design by several Axiom competitors, some at significantly higher prices. There's no reason to believe that Ian and his colleagues won't also be successful in implementing it using M60 components.

Enjoy the music, not the equipment.

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