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I've tried it both ways. The imaging isn't messed up, as long as all the speakers on the same channel are vertically aligned. (That would be like saying the imaging of the M80 is messed up because there are 2 of each speaker.)

With a single M22, I can tell the sound is coming from the M22. With 2 vertically aligned M22's, it sounds like the whole wall is exploding with sound. (Good just got better.)

That's another possible option for the person that started this thread. Mount 2 M22's on top of each other for L/R and use a VP160, mounted in the center of the screen for the center channel.

I agree with the Cat. Even with the M80s the farther you get away from them in a typical HT room the more they sound like a point source in the vertical plain, M22s and M2s more so. Putting another set of drivers playing the same channel aligned above them greatly enhances the immersion of the front soundstage without degrading the left to right separation mastered into the front channels.

Thanks for this. I'll have to look into the QS Series because yes this will primarily be used for movies.

Didn't even think of this. In essence you M50 + M22 = M60 or M80? yet less depth - hmmm

It won't do the lower bass that M80 can do, but that's what sub woofer is for.

Another thought: If you're going to put speakers behind an acoustically transparent screen, then 2 speakers vertically aligned probably won't fit. Definitely don't put them side by side. That would destroy the sound field.

My plans, sometime in the future, is to do this using M80 in-cabinet models for L/C/R. To to this, I'll have to build out into the room on the other side of the wall. For me, it's the garage. Is it at all possible that you could move your screen towards you a few more inches to use either the M60 or M80's? In-cabinet would probably be best for behind the screen. (you may have to mount some sort of baffle over the ports to keep the air from moving the screen.)

So little more detail. Front of false wall is 18" from "real" wall with 2" rigid fiberglass (covered in cloth)(hence 16" depth).

In this case, how close to the "real" wall can the back of the speakers be? Any performance issues if too close?

I don't get it. Visual learner, sorry.

Conventional speakers would need enough room behind for the ports to be effective. I've heard a distance equal to the diameter of the port suggested (i.e. a couple inches).

I don't know what your "false wall" looks like, but the In-cabinet M60 is 15.31" deep and has the port ON THE FRONT. Maybe that's an option?

Oh, and get the QS8's. They're wonderful.

I don't understand why people would want to hide nice speakers behind a wall, I want to see my expensive speakers, but that is just me. My speakers are about 6" away from my front wall.

Just a matter of preference. For me I like the seamless look of a theater without seeing the speakers and just hearing them. Again, a matter of preference, but I don't need the speakers to look beautiful for my purpose - I just want them to sound good.

I would definetely go with the M60 in-cabinet. You will still need 2 or 3 inches between the speaker fronts and the back of the screen. This means the screen itself should not be flush against the false wall, but you can build out around the edge of the screen area with some 2x2 or 2x4. Putting the screen against the front of the speakers will make the screen vibrate too much. (According to what I've heard everyone else say.)

Oh, and one more thing. Definetly use 3 M60's for L/C/R. This will give a better and more even sound field. A horrizontal center channel is a compromise design to allow for placement under/over the TV.

I too want to use a setup similar to this. Have you chosen which screen you are going to use? All of the AT screens I could find were very expensive. Especially the ones that claimed to not need any upper frequency boost.