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#363944 - 01/17/12 01:03 AM VP-180 Soundstage
ghost271 Offline
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Havent been around in a long time seeing as parenthood is a fulltime job. But popping by to see whats new I noticed the VP-180. I am looking to upgrade my center channel from my current VP-150 as it doesnt seem to really fill the front stage unless the volume is cranked. I am close to biting the bullet and buying the Klipsch RC-64ii ($750 which is half price) until i saw the VP - 180. Any word from 180 owners on the fullness and depth of the soundstage ? I have yet to hear another center that can touch the Klipsch in that regard. And the version 2 Klipschs arent as bright and fatiguing as the previous ones. Thanks again for your input guys.
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#363946 - 01/17/12 02:11 AM Re: VP-180 Soundstage [Re: ghost271]
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I have M60ti's, and use to have a VP-150.. I always thought the 150 was undersized... well, in my opinion it is!... I got a 180 when they first came out... it is kind of like going from a 3 cylinder ugo, to a supercharged corvette... there is almost no comparison between the two speakers... The 180 fits in perfect with my M60's... Often times when i had the 150 i would not listen to music in multi-channel mode, due to the 150 being so much smaller than the M60's, hence making the listening environment not ideal. With the VP-180 i listen to music in Multi-channel mode now, the 180 integrates seamlessly between the M60's and has absolutely no problem keeping up with them in sound output, and sound stage...

Like yourself, i had been wanting a larger center channel for Many years... So when the 180 was introduced i did not hesitate to order one immediately.

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#363947 - 01/17/12 02:21 AM Re: VP-180 Soundstage [Re: ghost271]
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Joel, I'd suggest that you consider the new VP160(if you want a center in horizontal form)which employs a W T/M W configuration. At this time Jason(jakewash)has the only one which has been released and you might take a look at his enthusiastic review of a few days ago.
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#363949 - 01/17/12 02:26 AM Re: VP-180 Soundstage [Re: JohnK]
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John, i think if the 160 and the 180 had came out at the exact same time.. I think i would still go for the 180... But the 160 is designed to match the M60's... even 160 would be a BIG step up from the 150 i would imagine..

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#363953 - 01/17/12 08:16 AM Re: VP-180 Soundstage [Re: dakkon]
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I'd love to see a back to back of the 180 and the 160. I'd also love to see the horizontally laid out 180 beat the pants off the 160, just so I can stop hearing about goddamn W T/M W configs being the end all be all. We'll see.


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#363955 - 01/17/12 08:25 AM Re: VP-180 Soundstage [Re: Ken.C]
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#363958 - 01/17/12 09:13 AM Re: VP-180 Soundstage [Re: RickF]
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The 180 came out long before the 160. I waited till there was the highly prized W T/M W configuration before ordering a new center speaker, the 160. grin
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#363959 - 01/17/12 09:22 AM Re: VP-180 Soundstage [Re: Wid]
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#363960 - 01/17/12 09:33 AM Re: VP-180 Soundstage [Re: dakkon]
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Originally Posted By: dakkon
John, i think if the 160 and the 180 had came out at the exact same time.. I think i would still go for the 180... But the 160 is designed to match the M60's... even 160 would be a BIG step up from the 150 i would imagine..


In terms of minimizing driver lobing, yes the VP160 will be a lot better than the VP180 as a horizontal speaker. It's just the nature of the driver complement. At the same time the VP180 will have greater bass extension over the VP160 when crossed lower, capable of greater dynamics, playing louder when needed with an appropriate amp ect.

For a proper comparison you would have to listen to these center channels in multiple seating positions around the room like Jakewash did, not just in the sweet spot.

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#363968 - 01/17/12 10:19 AM Re: VP-180 Soundstage [Re: BlueJays1]
ghost271 Offline
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I owned an RC-62 before and the two 6.5" woofers added so much depth to the front that everything else i have listened to kinda disapoints. The RC-64 has four of those ! The new crossovers and tweeters in the Ver.2 Refference series have made the horns less shrill and i noticed no fatigue like before. The other thing i liked about the horn tech, is how it picks out the tiniest details of sound during movies; something my 150 doesnt do that great at lower volumes. Dont get me wrong. I love my setup for music and concert Blurays, but it is really lacking that 'Humph!' when it comes to movies.
Am i correct in assuming that its the large woofers on the Klipsch that fill that front soundstage ? I have a 10" Energy sub at the front and my M60s are set to 'small' with the crossovers set to 80. Ideally i think i should have gone with M80s but will get those when I get a bigger room.
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