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Re: Anybody else interested in the new iPad?
medic8r #368969 03/07/12 10:57 PM
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Oh dear lord. Listen to the voice-over guy for the Apple video. "We've taken this super awesome, higher resolution that your 55inch TV and crammed it into this small display. Your eyes won't be able to tell the difference, but it is better because we say so."

I stopped right there.

So its faster, and has some goofy named "Apple optics" camera that they say is better, (probably better than the iPad 2), crammed 4x the pixels in the display (see above) and let you use 4G-LTE. Woohoo, because I like paying for another data plan.

It is trendy, and hip, but heck, a lot of people say that Monster Cables are awesome too. Yea, I said it. You hate me now... That's too bad, because I really am a nice guy. (Maybe if I could get that Apple voice-over guy to tell you, then you would think that I am... Hmmm... I wonder what his hourly rate is.)


"The iPad3 (or HD, or whatever). Better than last year's product, and we need the income, so you should buy it."

Oh wait, I am really making enemies now. Crap...

GO ahead and buy it. I just don't think that any tablet device is good enough for what I want. Give me something that is as fast as a decent laptop, has tons of storage, good battery life, and can connect up to a corporate VPN and run work apps and THEN I would look at it. Without ALL of those, it is still a pricey toy for me. Others may get more use out of it, and that is great.


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Re: Anybody else interested in the new iPad?
medic8r #368971 03/07/12 11:04 PM
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Oooh, Mister Grumpy Pants.


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Re: Anybody else interested in the new iPad?
medic8r #368976 03/07/12 11:24 PM
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LOL. There is much truth and much exaggeration in my previous post. It is up to you to pick what you want to put into either category. Some will lump everything into one or the other, but that is against the rules.


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Re: Anybody else interested in the new iPad?
medic8r #368978 03/08/12 12:15 AM
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I liked it a lot, Nick.


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Re: Anybody else interested in the new iPad?
nickbuol #368985 03/08/12 01:58 AM
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Originally Posted By: nickbuol


"The iPad3 (or HD, or whatever). Better than last year's product, and we need the income, so you should buy it."

Oh wait, I am really making enemies now. Crap...

Nick, the have been doing marginal updates for decades, to get people to buy the "new generation".. That is their business model, and I don’t think anyone can argue that it's not working... Does everyone buy into it, nope... I had a Iphone 3G, I bought it when the 3Gs came out, so I got mine for 99 bucks$$~, I then waited until the 4S came out to upgrade, because like you I wanted a significant upgrade..

Originally Posted By: nickbuol

has tons of storage, good battery life, and can connect up to a corporate VPN and run work apps and THEN I would look at it. Without ALL of those, it is still a pricey toy for me. Others may get more use out of it, and that is great.

I think that some of this will be in future generations, as they are pushing the iCloud thing, storage could be a nonissue, if you are able to save everything to the "cloud".. Also, Apple has specifically not entered into the corperate market place, they have said that they are a consumer based company.. Will this change, I don't know. However, there are lots of people in your position. A good friend of mine is a HUGE apple fan, however for his work he HAD to get a windows phone, because his iphone would not sync with his work calendar and a couple other things that he needed for his job. So with regards to that issue, yes they are certainly losing customers...

Originally Posted By: nickbuol

Oh wait, I am really making enemies now. Crap...


Did you watch Obamas press conference the other day? He mentioned that part of living in a democracy is the exchange of ideas, and disagreements. However, that does should not mean that anyone degrades anyone else's opinion.. I though that part of his press conference was well put...

Regardless of whether one likes Obama’s politics I think everyone would say he is well spoken.

Re: Anybody else interested in the new iPad?
medic8r #368987 03/08/12 02:27 AM
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I can connect to my corporate VPN with my iPhone and iPad... And the iPad has fantastic battery life. Just sayin'.

Of course, I can also say that I virtually never use the iPad for anything past playing silly little games and checking email. Maybe looking up recipes.

Once I have my New iPad (stoopid naming, really, but it's what Apple does...), I'll probably load a terminal app on it so I can vaguely attempt to do work with it. At least it'll be lighter than the 17" MBP that I lug around now.


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Re: Anybody else interested in the new iPad?
medic8r #368989 03/08/12 03:24 AM
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At work we use a product from Good (good.com) that allows people to at least get emails on non-company based cell devices. They are really looking hard to get more and more Apple support for full VPN connectivity to the office with security requirements, but aren't having a lot of luck. But that is a different story.

As for the super-duper-pad that I talked about. I know that is many generations away yet for the power that I want. I also am not a huge fan of any cloud. There are positives, but there are a lot of security negatives. Keep in mind that I was in IT security year ago. Maybe it makes me paranoid. It will take a lot for any corporation to go to any cloud for data storage due to risk mitigation, but you never know.


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Re: Anybody else interested in the new iPad?
medic8r #368990 03/08/12 03:25 AM
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Oh, I'm not a fan of the cloud, either, at least in a business environment.


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Re: Anybody else interested in the new iPad?
BlueJays1 #368992 03/08/12 04:49 AM
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It's about accessibility and ease of use, *not* specs, people.


This should be the marketing campaign of the Bose Acoustimass home theater system.

This is why Amar Bose and Steve Jobs are filthy rich and good for them.


I was about to disagree with you, but you're right. Both Apple and Bose's core markets do not care as much about specs as the overall experience of using their products. In the case of Apple, though, you can't really "prove" to someone that their experience is lacking. You can show a Bose owner frequency response charts. smile

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medic8r #369018 03/08/12 01:06 PM
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I agree with Peter, but then again I agree with a little bit of everyone above. Unlike most people, I get overly optimistic when I'm overtired.

Bose is a marketing machine. For a long time now it has relied totally on marketing research instead of product research. (Well, that is a bit untrue. It does show product innovation but only in redesigning its tech to market better vs. sound better.) It has found a niche with this and is successful.

Apple is also a marketing machine but the difference is, that (like them or not) it's products measurably do what they promise. Bose promises the ultimate in sound quality but to say it delivers is <insert your own answer here>. The fact that I felt safe to let you insert your own word there is exactly my point. Apple delivers what it claims, but still benefits from the 'cool factor' the marketers have created.

Both are overpriced (to different degrees), but at least one delivers what it claims.

I was also hoping for another major leap in technology in this announcement although I don't know what I expected. There is nothing there that will make me consider upgrading my wife's first gen iPad but on the other hand, neither are they standing still.

I do want a tablet for me but I won't be buying one soon as it is not the best solution for my needs yet. However, a tablet was the perfect solution for my wife who uses it constantly for a wide variety of things that would not have been as efficient or easy on a laptop. It also benefits me as she can't break the OS so I don't troubleshoot all the time like I used to.

So lots of thoughts, for those who are actually still reading for some odd reason, sorry for the long post.



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