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Re: VP150 - dialogue sometimes sounds harsh
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Sometimes it can be hard to hear if a particular driver is having a problem just by putting your ear up to it so I suggest the following.
If you haven’t already, rule out that it’s a loose dust cap on one of the midrange drivers. I had this problem with a new M22 and it only happened on certain frequencies. Play a scene with the offending buzz and hold your finger on the dust cap of each driver in turn and see if it eliminates of at least muffles the buzz. This would be my first guess since it seems to be an older speaker.
You could also check the mounting screws on the drivers to make sure one of them hasn’t come loose.
If that amounts to nothing it could still be something else wrong with a driver like Randy suggests. So one at a time I would remove each driver and disconnect the wires starting with the midranges, since it seem to be a lower frequency from what you’ve said. If the problem goes away when you disconnect a particular driver then reinstall that driver in another position and see if the problem follows the driver. If not put another driver in the offending position and see if that driver has a problem. If the problem is with what position the driver is in regardless of which driver is there then look for something near that driver that could be vibrating including a loose wire on the crossover.
If there is nothing at all wrong with the drivers or the position then it could be a bad crossover. I had that problem with a new M2 when only a certain frequency was played but luckily those come in pairs so after eliminating all other possibilities I swapped the crossovers and the problem followed the crossover.
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Re: VP150 - dialogue sometimes sounds harsh
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thanks for the suggestions. i'll see if i can identify if it's a bad driver.
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Re: VP150 - dialogue sometimes sounds harsh
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Well i don't think it's a dust cap, and i cant isolate it to any specific driver (it seems to be internal, like a vibration from the cabinet.
I guess i'll disconnect the drivers this weekend when i have some time and have a look.
also wondering if anyone with a vp150 had a chance to listen to that passage from fellowship of the ring?
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Re: VP150 - dialogue sometimes sounds harsh
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Know the passage well but no longer have a VP150; I don't recall any issues when I had my VP150. It could possibly be that the crossover in the VP150 is having some trouble and no longer functioning as it should.
Jason M80 v2 VP160 v3 QS8 v2 PB13 Ultra Denon 3808 Samsung 85" Q70
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Re: VP150 - dialogue sometimes sounds harsh
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Well i took a look at the drivers, they all seem to be connected well and in good working order.
I connected an Energy bookshelf speaker as the center channel, and the same problem is replicated, so my felling is that buzzing note is actually on the source recording. I think the VP150 is a better speaker and just exposes the flaw in the recording more (and now with my new set up where the centre channel is more optimally placed i here the flaw more).
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I'm glad you figured out the problem!
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Re: VP150 - dialogue sometimes sounds harsh
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yep, I don't know how many times I've told people over at AVS that Axiom speakers aren't bright, but true to the recording.
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Re: VP150 - dialogue sometimes sounds harsh
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I connected an Energy bookshelf speaker as the center channel, and the same problem is replicated, so my felling is that buzzing note is actually on the source recording. I think the VP150 is a better speaker and just exposes the flaw in the recording more (and now with my new set up where the centre channel is more optimally placed i here the flaw more). I'm glad you were able to duplicate the problem so you know it isn't the VP150, nothing like reassurance.
Jason M80 v2 VP160 v3 QS8 v2 PB13 Ultra Denon 3808 Samsung 85" Q70
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