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#380645 - 07/25/12 09:56 AM The Daily Gripe
nickbuol Offline
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Here we go. A place to put those quick little gripes in our lives that aren't worthy of their own thread.

This is open to everyone here to put some gripe that they are dealing with.
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#380646 - 07/25/12 10:03 AM Re: The Daily Gripe [Re: nickbuol]
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Where are the LFR reviews??
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#380647 - 07/25/12 10:08 AM Re: The Daily Gripe [Re: nickbuol]
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I'll go first second....

AFCI - AKA Arc Fault Circuit Breakers (ok, I for Interrupters)

I had to pull out the 100% working, $4, 15 amp breakers when finishing my basement and replace them with $36, 20 amp AFCI breakers per code. Now I am fighting nuisance tripping.

My last basement had a single 15 amp (non-AFCI breaker) that worked for everything as long as you didn’t plug in a heater and hair dryer into the bathroom at the same time. It ran my theater, game room, tons of lighting, etc. No issues.

Now, with these massively expensive breakers, I get nuisance tripping about once every couple of weeks. My investigations have discovered that it isn’t the wiring, or the load (I’ve got 8 circuits down there), but WHAT is plugged in. Plug in a vacuum onto a circuit with anything but just the lights on, and that AFCI will pop. Use a small paper shredder in the same scenario, and the AFCI will pop. Play my pinball machine (which has 4 electro magnets in it that turn on and off depending on game play), and have just a couple of other things plugged in, and that AFCI will pop.

I plugged in a monitoring device to see what kinds of loads I am getting, and even with the vacuum, or shredder, or pinball magnets running, I am not going over something like 10 amps… ever…

Find out that AFCI are known to do this with exactly the types of things causing them to trip. What a bunch of crap. I would put in a $4 breaker in the office (paper shredder), and game room (where it is most problematic), but then if there is some sort of house fire, even if caused by something completely separate from the basement electrical, there are stories of insurance claim denials. Ugh.

At least nothing in my theater, which actually draws a decent amount of amps, never trips.
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#380648 - 07/25/12 10:23 AM Re: The Daily Gripe [Re: nickbuol]
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When I mail a parcel, why does the post office ask me to insure it? the post office are the only ones who have it in their posession until it's delivered so basically they are trying to extort money from me because they have crooks working for them.
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#380650 - 07/25/12 10:40 AM Re: The Daily Gripe [Re: nickbuol]
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Hey! Adrian's back!! And, he's grumpy! smile
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#380651 - 07/25/12 10:48 AM Re: The Daily Gripe [Re: nickbuol]
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Just needed the right thread, lol!
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#380652 - 07/25/12 10:51 AM Re: The Daily Gripe [Re: nickbuol]
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I must be in the wrong place, because I'm having a good day.

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#380655 - 07/25/12 11:47 AM Re: The Daily Gripe [Re: nickbuol]
tomtuttle Offline
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I'm generally opposed to wanton negativity. However...

It's July. The weather is fantastic. If you're driving a convertible - in SEATTLE - with the top UP today, you just suck at life.
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#380656 - 07/25/12 11:56 AM Re: The Daily Gripe [Re: nickbuol]
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Amen, brother. When I see people driving convertibles with the top up on a nice day, I want to confiscate their cars. Or at least give them a ticket.
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#380667 - 07/25/12 02:23 PM Re: The Daily Gripe [Re: medic8r]
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Smokers who drive hybrid cars and throw their cigarette butts out the window really get to me. Anyone who throws a cigarette butt out the window deserves a kick in the taint, but the hybrid drivers who do it are a special kind of hypocrite.
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