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Thinking of upgrading my sub
#383727 10/05/12 06:35 PM
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Hi guys,

Axiom owner here. I've been thinking of upgrading my sub but I'm having a hard time figuring out what to get. I currently have an HSU STF3, http://www.hsuresearch.com/products/stf-3.html.

While overall I'm generally happy with the sub, I do feel like I could get something that digs a little deeper. Problem is being in Canada it seems my choices are a bit limited. I could spend the $1,200 on the EP500 but with taxes that comes to $1,400. I thought about the SVS SB13 Ultra but that is already at $1,400 without taxes. I've also been looking at the HSU VTF3 MK4 which is $650 but will probably cost another $300 at least in taxes, duties and shipping.

So I feel kinda of stuck. To be honest I'm not partiicularly found of the look of the ep500 either. The rectangular port and chopped sides of the driver...I find it looks well ugly...this is going in my condo and has to fit in with the decor....

Any suggestions...

Re: Thinking of upgrading my sub
DanielBMe #383728 10/05/12 06:48 PM
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it would help if you tell us about:

how loud do you listen to movies/music;
how large is the room (in cu.ft.), including other rooms connected
through open doorways;
what would you like to reproduce?: right down to 20 Hz or
do you want to go down to infra sound ?
your budget.

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Re: Thinking of upgrading my sub
DanielBMe #383730 10/05/12 06:55 PM
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Well my budget is really maxed at with the ep500's. Preferably I'd like to spend a bit less if possible.

My living room is combined with my dining room so about 16 x 20 with my couch the divider between. Here's my current layout... thankfully I posted it here awhile ago. http://www.axiomaudio.com/boards/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=346422&page=5

As well, to the left of my living room is my kitchen which is open to the living room via the counter.

Like I said, I would like something that gives me a little more than the stf3. I definitely want to feel that rumble when I watch the blu ray of War of the Worlds and the street rips open near the beginning...

I would say I would be using it for about 70% movies and 30% music.

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DanielBMe #383731 10/05/12 07:05 PM
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I think you're going to need a significantly bigger box/amp/driver if you want to get "lower and louder" than the STF3. I'd be surprised if you could make a very meaningful improvement for much less than the cost of the EP500.

Have you considered bass-shakers?


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Re: Thinking of upgrading my sub
DanielBMe #383732 10/05/12 07:08 PM
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the link you provided is wrong...

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DanielBMe #383734 10/05/12 07:13 PM
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Well technically I can get it for less cost...unfortunately it's the shipping from the US that puts a hole in the plan. The VTF3 MK4 from HSU seems like it would make a pretty good difference but I just hate wasting dollars just for shipping and duties. I guess I would really have to check with them for the total cost.

Any idea how the ep500 compares to my STF 3?

I would prefer to do without the base shakers and adding extra wiring. I'd like to try to keep things clean and simple. Plus less wiring is less likey that my two dogs will get at them.

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DanielBMe #383735 10/05/12 07:14 PM
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Hmm the link works for me when I click it from my post. Does the link not take you to a thread here on the Axiom forum?

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DanielBMe #383738 10/05/12 07:18 PM
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i probably need to reboot...
the link takes me to another thread that has nothing to do with your layout.

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J. B. #383740 10/05/12 07:22 PM
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Well the thread is about problems with my M80's I originally had but on page 5 I included a photo of my living room...so maybe you are seeing the right thing.

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DanielBMe #383743 10/05/12 07:41 PM
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i found the photos at the address you gave, but aren't they on page 3 of the thread instead of page 5?

the whole thread has 4 pages with only one post on page 4.

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