Axiom Home Page Forums General Discussion Home Theater VP150 in a hole?

I tried different positioning, in fact moving it on a stand in front of my cabinet. The basic sonic "signature" remained the same, and was nowhere near timbre matched with the M2, at least to these 50 year old ears. I was absolutely convinced I had a defective unit, but Ian said it checked out fine. The implication was that I was being influenced by my measurements (I noticed a fairly severe drop-off off-axis using pink noise) and that nothing Ian or anyone else could say was going to change my mind. I actually didn't start measuring until I noticed with my ears the timbre and off-axis issues. Finally, I was directed to several articles about pink noise that purported to show that it was not a good test for timbre (not sure why Lexicon would include it in their $9,000 processor, but what the hey) and that any speaker would show this timbre issue with pink noise. I can only repeat: not in my rather extensive "listening" experience. Out at 10 feet, drivers should blend pretty well, and if I'm hearing individual woofers and tweeters at that distance something is definitely wrong somewhere. That's the effect I heard moving off axis with the VP150. Again, I'm glad all you guys enjoy it. It just didn't work for me, and I have a very nice theater room in which many different types of speakers have worked.

I noticed everybody getting defensive and thought I should pipe in.

We're missing a big, important point here. Tony wasn't happy with the performance of his VP150 -- even with all the other reports that disagreed with his and after many explanations were made for the possible causes of his timbre issues. He didn't think the VP150 sounded as good as a $350 center channel should sound. Can we really fault him for that?

Nope.

Thanks.

I agree. Let's just hope that dead horse doesn't twitch again or we'll have to beat it some more.

Just trying to respond to a poster's concerns. Maybe it's a dead horse to you, but obviously other auditors want to keep that horse alive. If you prefer to just tell everyone who voices their concern that they've got a problem, if that makes you feel comfortable in your value systems, just say so and you guys can agree till you're silly.

/horse twitches

I am still leaning towards the VP150 (plus M60 and QS8) but I admit in my audition the VP150 I heard was a bit odd int he fact that it's gain had to be increased to *match* the other speakers in the HT setup.

Maybe that speaker is just too picky what kind of room its in, or amp its connected to, or tv it sits on top of...

Every now and then, I've read about VP150 not matching up w/ M60 or QS8. I like the fact that it was pointed out. I like to read critics on the speakers. Would there be a VP200 or VP 250 anytime soon?

Have anyone try M60 (matrixed center) + qs8 vs a M60+vp150+qs8... How much different will you get?

I think it's worth for Axiom staffs to visit Tony's house to investigate what's going on. If VP150 have problems, they can try to redesign and make a better center; if not, they can provide explanation to the confusion.