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#396862 - 09/04/13 05:51 PM Re: Help me spend some money on a receiver! [Re: Zarak]
CatBrat Offline

Registered: 08/05/09
Posts: 6005
Loc: Milky Way Galaxy
I second, or triple, the Pioneer Elite, if you like lots of bass. In my experience, Audyssey limits the bass too much. It may be more accurate, but to my ears, MCACC in Pioneer sounds better.

#396865 - 09/04/13 06:18 PM Re: Help me spend some money on a receiver! [Re: CatBrat]
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Registered: 01/11/13
Posts: 195
Loc: B.C., Canada
I know that 4 months ago when I wanted a new reciever, I bought a brand new Marantz SR5007. I had it for 3 days and returned it for a Pioneer SC-61.

I personally believe MCACC to be much more capable. This is just more opinion than anything. But I found that audyssey just lacked something. Plus, when I run audyssey, it's just a simple few chirps in each speaker and it's done. MCACC runs all sorts of various tests. It lets you customize your sound much better. More options. Whether it's front align, symmetry or all channel adjust...or whether it's your delay time...or whatever. Everything is fully customizable. You can tweak EVERYTHING.

I played around with Audyssey a lot in those 3 days and I found I couldn't tweak as much as I'd like. It seemed to me that it was more designed for the plug and play person.

Again, these are just my personal opinions and observations.

If your a guy that likes it to be complex and a guy that wants to have total control, go with MCACC and a pioneer Elite.

Plus, I found the Marantz ran extremely hot compared to the class d of the Pioneer Elite. My elite only gets warm after some heavy extended use. As Catbrat pointed out, I also found there is a lot more heavy end, or "chest thump", after running MCACC compared to Audyssey...and I like it a lot! smile

I would have typed this all up the first time, but was on my phone wink
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#396866 - 09/04/13 06:24 PM Re: Help me spend some money on a receiver! [Re: Zarak]
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Registered: 06/20/03
Posts: 8347
Loc: Tacoma
To get the most out of Audyssey MultiEQ XT, I think you have to run the sweeps at 6 or 8 locations. There's a guide, somewhere.

Does the Elite have a good UI for network streaming and stuff? How about AirPlay? I'm interested in those things, but haven't really done the research, and I value your experience more than what a manufacturer website might tell me, anyway.
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#397011 - 09/11/13 01:20 AM Re: Help me spend some money on a receiver! [Re: Zarak]
CatBrat Offline

Registered: 08/05/09
Posts: 6005
Loc: Milky Way Galaxy
That's one thing I've never delved into, although I have a Pioneer Elite SC-67.

#397050 - 09/11/13 07:10 PM Re: Help me spend some money on a receiver! [Re: Zarak]
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Registered: 02/07/07
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Loc: New York
These threads are killing me. It was the final tipping point for me....Just got my Denon 4520. AVS gave me a very nice price and I couldn't pass up the opportunity. I'll repurpose my 3808 at a different location.
Denon 4520, EPIC80/500/VP180 Speakers

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