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#397880 - 10/16/13 11:46 PM thoughts on Yamaha's RX-V475 and M80's, VP 160 Cen
BruceD Offline
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Registered: 12/28/12
Posts: 4
Hello.
I am looking to get a pair of M80's and the VP160 center for my home theater.
just your thoughts on an amp to power them I am looking at the Yamaha RX-V475. or should I step up to the 675 ?

Thanks!

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#397883 - 10/17/13 02:25 AM Re: thoughts on Yamaha's RX-V475 and M80's, VP 160 Cen [Re: BruceD]
JohnK Offline
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Registered: 05/11/02
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Bruce, welcome. If you're considering the relative power ratings between the 475 and 675 as a determining factor, the difference is trivial. 90 watts provide for only about 0.5dB more loudness on brief peaks than do 80 watts, an insignificant amount. If the 7 rather than 5 channels which the 675 has, or some other feature is very important to you, that's a different matter. Either of them can power the Axioms well unless you intend to listen at extremely loud levels or at a great distance.

However, my own suggestion would be to consider a unit(e.g., Denon or Onkyo)which has Audyssey auto-calibration and room correction, rather than the Yamaha YPAO. If your budget for this is in the $400 range, you should consider a factory refurbished model(likely to be at least as reliable as a brand new one)from Accessories4less. The Onkyo 709 is a very good buy.
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#397951 - 10/18/13 08:40 PM Re: thoughts on Yamaha's RX-V475 and M80's, VP 160 Cen [Re: BruceD]
BruceD Offline
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Registered: 12/28/12
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Thank you John for your reply,

I was in tonight at the Brick here in town and the sales person suggested that I go with the RX-V675. I think the amp can bi amp. What would the gain be by bi amp'ng?
The price increase for the next version is 200 more.

Thoughts?
Bruce

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#397955 - 10/18/13 10:46 PM Re: thoughts on Yamaha's RX-V475 and M80's, VP 160 Cen [Re: BruceD]
JohnK Offline
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No receiver can bi-amp. The basic requirement(among others)for true bi-amping is two amplifiers. A receiver has one amplifier with several output channels. Connecting two rather than one output channels to a speaker uses the same power supply and doesn't increase maximum power in any way.

If the salesman suggested this as an advantage, his advice isn't to be taken seriously.
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#398012 - 10/20/13 10:00 PM Re: thoughts on Yamaha's RX-V475 and M80's, VP 160 Cen [Re: JohnK]
BruceD Offline
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Hi John.
I decided to get the Yamaha AVENTAGE 7.2 Network A/V Receiver (RXA830. Found it for 100 off list of 900.

I am wondering if the M60's will be OK for me? My room is very small and the only reason i liked the M80's is I dont want to use a sub and was hoping the M80's will give me enough bottom end.

Thoughts?

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#398015 - 10/21/13 03:34 AM Re: thoughts on Yamaha's RX-V475 and M80's, VP 160 Cen [Re: BruceD]
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The M80, and to a slightly lesser extent the M60, would supply enough bass for nearly all music(excepting the lowest pipe organ notes). For LFE occasionally present in the .1 channel in movies a good sub is really a significant advantage. Of course most of these low frequency effects will be heard through the M80/M60, but less impressively.
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#398022 - 10/21/13 07:59 AM Re: thoughts on Yamaha's RX-V475 and M80's, VP 160 Cen [Re: BruceD]
Murph Offline
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Registered: 10/05/06
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Loc: PEI, Canada
Having two sets of M60s, one being used with a sub, the other are not, I'd agree with John. Downstairs in the HT Room, my EP500 adds a lot of impact to movies. Upstairs where it is music only, I used an old 'leftover' sub from a HTiB I had in my first house. It added depth but once I tried the M60s in "Large" (normal) mode, I realized that the sub had to be turned up to the point of exaggeration for it to make much of a difference. I removed it as it didn't match the decor anyway so my wife and I were both happy.

On the other hand, some people are not about natural sound and just enjoy a LOT of bass. If you are one of those people, a good sub is the way to go. I will admit on very rare occassion I crank the EP500 to exaggerated levels when listening to music in the HT room but it is usually a 'friends & alcohol' induced behavior.
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#398095 - 10/23/13 02:13 PM Re: thoughts on Yamaha's RX-V475 and M80's, VP 160 Cen [Re: Murph]
BruceD Offline
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Registered: 12/28/12
Posts: 4
Thank you both for the info.

I went to an audition yesterday and listen to m80's! wow what a speaker. Just need to justify it...lol.

My room is very small and I think the M80's are too large for the room.

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#398099 - 10/23/13 05:31 PM Re: thoughts on Yamaha's RX-V475 and M80's, VP 160 Cen [Re: BruceD]
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Registered: 01/19/11
Posts: 1283
Loc: Quebec, Canada
Bruce, i sit about 6-7 ft from my M80s, and i think it's the minimum distance one can use and still have excellent reproduction.

please check my photo/text in the Axiom gallery or at:
http://www.blu-ray.com/community/gallery.php?member=Gelli


Edited by J. B. (10/23/13 05:31 PM)
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