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PS4 won't play CD's (on day one?).

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2013/10/30/ps4-the-ultimate-faq-north-america/#sect9

Along with our tv, our PS3 was also stolen. What say you? Replace it with another PS3, wait a bit and get a PS4, or forget the console and get an Oppo 103?

It should be noted that 90% of our PS3 use was for Netflix/Hulu streaming and physical disc playback (dvd/cd/blu-ray). We rarely used it for gaming and use XBMC via an attached PC for network streaming of my ripped media.

Personally I'm leaning towards the Oppo and finding a used PS3 cheap for the occassional gaming. Of course that's the most expensive option.

What do you guys think?

but I fear what the interface will consist of for media functions.

Have you seen any videos of the UI in action? It is sweet.

If pressure is applied to the left-hand side of the console or the back right corner, the unit wobbles slightly. The reason for the teetering motion is attributed to the placement of rubber feet on the underside of the console; there are two fins that run down the center of the PS4 and cause the unit to be unbalanced on a flat surface. (IGN)

Does this happen with your console? If you do try it take out any disks before applying pressure. Just curious.

I won't be buying the new PS4 or XBox One. Heck, we bought a XBox 360 a couple of years ago when the Kinect came out, but it has sat idle (like our Wii) for MONTHS. Yet, I game on my PC multiple times a week. My opinions of the launches are:

1) PS4 - No day-one games to write home about. Be honest, you know it is true.
2) PS4 - People that came from the PS3 like the new controller, even if the touchpad is awkward to get used to.
3) Xbox One - Better launch day games
4) Xbox One - More integrated as a whole entertainment system
5) Both - Missing key "promised" or "hoped for" features at release.
6) Both - Need a launch day update.
7) Both - Fanboy systems for at least a month if not two until they start getting more titles out and start offering those additional features.

Almost anything around blu-ray playback such as 3D, etc has been somewhat speculative as to what they have out of the box vs. future.

And sure, you can bicker about the $100 price difference, but I think that you are getting more for the money with the XBox One. Is the "more" that you get worth $100? I don't know, but you do get more than a gaming system that happens to play blu-rays (it might become a great blu-ray player like the PS3 was, but isn't there yet compared to many standalone players).

Consoles are cheaper than gaming PCs hardware wise but you will find better deals on PC games (definitely if you can wait a couple months).

Plus you can do a lot more things on a PC than a console.

Then there is the whole upgradable thing... a year from now PC's will begin to distance themselves once again from these new consoles hardware wise.

That said I think a lot of it is just personal preference. I own two 360's yet I've probably only played about 8 hours total of video games on them and probably not for at least 2 years now. I just use them as MCE extenders for my HTPC. The reason I don't play games on them is I just can't enjoy video games with controllers. I must have a keyboard and mouse.

Yay for keyboard and mouse! I am pretty darn good with that combo. Never took to using my thumbs for much besides racing games. FPS games I totally suck at with thumbs, but my gaming mouse and decent keyboard work great.

I talked to a manager today who works at a GameStop. He said that they get consoles for the staff to use prior to launch dates and they get paid time to use the systems and play the games. From a gaming perspective, he was disappointed with the PS4. He said what I've heard elsewhere "when the best thing to talk about is the controller, and even that is flawed with the goofy touchpad that requires letting go of the controller for the most part to use, then you don't have a good system." He said that he is more hopeful about the XBox One that they get to start using tomorrow.

Doesn't help with the video playback question originally asked, but the web is full of "My PS3 is WAY better for blu-ray" and so forth.

For those that still wonder, read this garbage article from Electronic House.
6 Reasons to Buy the PS4 Even If You Don’t Care About Gaming

Check out the comments below it. Lots of hate and disappointment.

Again, here the top things are "apps". Yay, I have a $35 blu-ray player with those apps and more.
#2 is a specific app (hey, isn't that technically the same thing as the first one?) This app is like a lot of video on-demand services, and it isn't like it is free.
#3 it has a blu-ray player? What the hell? This is a big deal how? It isn't like this is something cutting edge.
#4 Support for DTS 7.1 - OK. Nice for a gaming system, but again, combined with everything else, this is not a big deal when you can do everything listed above for less.
#5 Support for 1080p? Is this lady writing this on drugs? So much other stuff doesn't 1080p for less. Heck, you can build a HTPC for a few hundred bucks that does more than this for the same price as the PS4 running on an old 2-core CPU.
#6 it is $100 cheaper than the XBox One? Is she getting some kick-back from Sony? You'd think so. The XBox One technically has more advanced hardware when adding the Kinect 2 (which looks damn cool in what it can do vs. the somewhat gimmicky original Kinect).

I just don't get it. Then again, I am not dropping any coin on either system. It isn't that I am anti-console. I currently own 3. XBox 360, Wii, and an old Sega Dreamcast with a boatload of accessories and games. Not sure what I am dong with that still though. I have also owned a Nintendo 64, original NES, Sega Genesis, and then jumped way back to an original Atari 2600 and even the original Sear's branded PONG with wired paddle controllers.

I just don't see the current hype about them. I think that the XBox One will do better out of the box on Day One, and has more to offer (at a price of $100), but when people online make such stretches to find use and value in a $400 gaming system, it is hard for the logic in me to get too excited about it.

I certainly am not anti-PS4 or anti-XBox One, and if you own or pre-ordered one, or whatever, cool. I honestly hope that you are happy with your purchase. I have no right to tell you how to spend your time or money. Good luck to all of you. I will just keep on doing hard core gaming on my machine that also does blu-ray playback (at 1080p, with DTS 7.1 decoding, with any app I want), and can do business apps like the whole Office suite, video and photo editing with the Adobe Master Collection of software, master DVDs and blu-rays, stream to other machine in the house, or from other machines like my media server, surf the internet, voice chat with friends, send email, watch TV, interface with pretty much any USB connectable device, download massive demo discs from the web, load with whatever O/S I want with whatever interface I want, so on and so forth. Sure, it cost more, but for the price, it does a heck of a lot and gets used for all of it too.

OK. I'm done ranting about this stuff. I will get off of my soap box, toss it into a burn barrel, throw in some gas, light 'er up, and walk away. If you've made it this far, then I must have said something that struck with you (good or bad).

Peace...

What promised features are missing? On the xbox one all I can think of is 3D support which can come along in a firmware update later (same thing with the PS4). The PS4 there is a lack of streaming, cd playback, 3d support. At least two of those can get fixed with a firmware update.

I preorded from amazon and they haven't even shipped it yet. I could just go down to wally world and buy one. No much point of selling day one if its a week or more late. Amazon blows.
rant over

Today's Google Doodle's 8 bit games, FTW.

I'm surprised our resident Doctor Who hater hasn't jumped on this already. He's probably busy playing.

Oh yeah, Xbox one is very quite, not noticeable difference to ps 4 as I can't tell either one is turned on, but I haven't sat there with my ear right next to it or anything. I have not tried bluray interface on the xbox yet

Same here, haven't played ps4 since I got xbox one, but mostly because I enjoy forza and battlefield a lot on xbox