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#399942 - 01/11/14 06:06 PM Re: M22 Upgrades, now that the m60/80 are [Re: TroyD]
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Troy , there is no need to get defensive, no ones attacking just voicing an opinion. Hell I have never even heard an M22 and I probly couldn't hear the difference you talk about anyway cause im goin deaf. As for the price of the MK , its what came up on a quick search. I would think if axiom built a 3 way that retailed for 1100.00/pr there would be some improvements all around. I will be the first to say that Axiom is not the be all end all in speakers , just decent speakers for the money.



I see car makers doin this all the time. Make a model for a certain price range/demographic then keep improving it, making it bigger, and adding options to the point they have to create a new compact model. Axiom would have to increase the price if they make changes or improvements then it becomes outside of their targeted demographic/price point that they want to appeal to. Axiom has to market their product the way they see fit and if they don't have what people want their are plenty of choices around.

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#399949 - 01/11/14 08:00 PM Re: M22 Upgrades, now that the m60/80 are [Re: TroyD]
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NO the M22 stay a 2way speaker. The MK750/950 are two way speakers.
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#399951 - 01/11/14 08:13 PM Re: M22 Upgrades, now that the m60/80 are [Re: TroyD]
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I am not saying they are not a great speaker and at a great price.
just that they have made improvements in all the towers.
I have heard about how the M80's rival over the M22 in the mids and highs.
Whaynot try to, never mind try to I know they can improve the m22. I don't think even at a $1000 they would be over priced. If of course the quality is there and sound performance. I want a M22 that is comparable to the M80, from 80hz - 20,000. I want to her they have a bookshelf that in the mid to high is just as good as the M80
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#399955 - 01/11/14 08:34 PM Re: M22 Upgrades, now that the m60/80 are [Re: TroyD]
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I don't think I've seen anyone say that the M80s are better than the M22s on mids and highs, but perhaps I just missed it. In fact, when I've heard the M22s vs the towers, they've been just as good or better on the mids and highs (even the on wall M22s vs the M80s!). I'll admit I haven't directly compared them in several years, and I don't have my M22s on hand to compare with my M80s.

What's important to note is that the M80HPs are a 6.5" woofer swap, along with die cast baskets on the mids--and that's it. The die cast mid baskets are available on the M22s, so in essence you can get an upgraded M22.
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#399957 - 01/11/14 08:36 PM Re: M22 Upgrades, now that the m60/80 are [Re: TroyD]
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Well I guess time will tell. Perhaps they will listen. I see you have M80;s now , are you planning to down size?

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#399959 - 01/11/14 09:13 PM Re: M22 Upgrades, now that the m60/80 are [Re: TroyD]
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Originally Posted By: troyd
I have heard about how the M80's rival over the M22 in the mids and highs.


What Ken said regarding this. I don't recall M80s getting the nod in these areas.

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#399970 - 01/11/14 10:11 PM Re: M22 Upgrades, now that the m60/80 are [Re: TroyD]
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Originally Posted By: troyd
I am not saying they are not a great speaker and at a great price.
just that they have made improvements in all the towers.
I have heard about how the M80's rival over the M22 in the mids and highs.
Whaynot try to, never mind try to I know they can improve the m22. I don't think even at a $1000 they would be over priced. If of course the quality is there and sound performance. I want a M22 that is comparable to the M80, from 80hz - 20,000. I want to her they have a bookshelf that in the mid to high is just as good as the M80


Have you considered Bryston's Mini T bookshelf speakers?


Edited by brwsaw (01/11/14 10:13 PM)
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#399971 - 01/11/14 10:16 PM Re: M22 Upgrades, now that the m60/80 are [Re: TroyD]
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I saw a set of Mini T's on canuck audiomart going for 1900 brand new. Retail is 2600. Canuck Audo
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#399972 - 01/11/14 10:26 PM Re: M22 Upgrades, now that the m60/80 are [Re: TroyD]
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I don't remember anybody credible ever saying that the M80's produced "better" highs and midrange than the M22. Can you cite examples?
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#399974 - 01/11/14 10:31 PM Re: M22 Upgrades, now that the m60/80 are [Re: Ken.C]
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Originally Posted By: Ken.C
I don't think I've seen anyone say that the M80s are better than the M22s on mids and highs, but perhaps I just missed it. In fact, when I've heard the M22s vs the towers, they've been just as good or better on the mids and highs (even the on wall M22s vs the M80s!). I'll admit I haven't directly compared them in several years, and I don't have my M22s on hand to compare with my M80s.

What's important to note is that the M80HPs are a 6.5" woofer swap, along with die cast baskets on the mids--and that's it. The die cast mid baskets are available on the M22s, so in essence you can get an upgraded M22.


There is a post here somewhere from Ian or Alan or Andrew that state the die case has no advantage what so ever on sound quality.

I will find the post where a few and I am 90% sure it was Alan that commented that the M80's are better in the mid 's.
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