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#401847 - 03/11/14 02:07 AM Re: ADA-1000 for M22 on-wall 5.1 setup? [Re: Hellcommute]
Phaedrus Offline

Registered: 03/07/14
Posts: 5
Originally Posted By: Hellcommute
Tough one. Your amp is not your bottleneck here.... major sonic upgrades will need some investment in getting your room layout and speaker placement better, ie. getting the mains off of the wall and spaced better. The stair wall is creating a bad acoustic reflection that is no doubt coloring the sound and narrowing your soundstage. Investment probably not worth it with your current room config. smile

The stair wall is not ideal, but the layout is a small trade off compared to the gain in usability. You can see from the pictures below how awful it was before. Switching to that wall allowed me to use the storage room behind it as a hidden AV rack. And rotating the room allowed for a full sectional which really helped with the seating arrangements.

The YPAO does a pretty good job at balancing the room out.

#401848 - 03/11/14 07:40 AM Re: ADA-1000 for M22 on-wall 5.1 setup? [Re: Phaedrus]
Hellcommute Offline

Registered: 09/23/12
Posts: 152
Usability is #1. Great pics, tricky space.

#401864 - 03/12/14 05:55 AM Re: ADA-1000 for M22 on-wall 5.1 setup? [Re: Hellcommute]
Crimson Wrath Offline
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Registered: 06/30/09
Posts: 86
Loc: NC

You can never have too much power. Going from an entry level Pioneer receiver to a dedicated Parasound multichannel amp made a significant difference in sound quality in my M60s. I'll never go back. Granted it depends on room size, how loud you like it, listening distance, etc. I can't see how one can not tell the difference in sound quality.
M60|VP150|2xQS8|PSA XS30+Epik Empire|Pioneer Kuro 6010FD|PS3|Denon AVR-X4000|Parasound 5250v.2|

#401865 - 03/12/14 07:54 AM Re: ADA-1000 for M22 on-wall 5.1 setup? [Re: Phaedrus]
Hellcommute Offline

Registered: 09/23/12
Posts: 152
^ I completely agree. I have had the same experience with 2 individual systems. Scratch my head when people cant hear a difference.

Phae, if you want to increase the dynamics of your system by spending little $ add acoustic panels. Room decay times will be reduced, so dynamic peaks are in and out without reverb. This adds to the punch of a soundtrack or song. You will also get tighter, more refined low frequencies. Then get your surrounds higher so they bath the seating area more evenly seat to seat. Hope this helps.

#401873 - 03/12/14 02:15 PM Re: ADA-1000 for M22 on-wall 5.1 setup? [Re: Phaedrus]
exlabdriver Offline

Registered: 09/07/11
Posts: 1721
I don't hear a difference in amplification unless the amp is running at or beyond its design limit. That condition will be reached much sooner by a lower powered unit.

I have both a SS AVR & a lower powered Tube Amp for music only. I don't hear any difference in quality as long as they are driven within reason. Despite what the 'Tubies' say, I don't hear the claims of liquid highs, luscious mids & silky bass with a hint of cedar with overtones of honey. Both types sound the same to me with the same source material; however, 'toobz' are cool & I like being in the room with them basking in their glow.

Speakers make the biggest difference to me...


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