Re: M3 In-Ceiling Loudspeakers
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Man I wish I could have been there!
I guess you are right. For that price it better have been outrageously good. Do you recall their ATMOS config? Angled?
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Re: M3 In-Ceiling Loudspeakers
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Honestly, I do not. It was a dark room with about 24 seats in it. They had a number of products on display outside the listening/watching area that were well lit, but used flashlights to show people to their seats. You couldn't even see the main speakers until they shined the flashlights on them.
I do, however, know that the speakers were "outside" the listening area, meaning that *IF* they were pointing straight down, they would be pointed at empty carpet, and not directly over someone's head. So either they are REALLY wide dispersion, or they were angled. I know this because they were put on to a shiny metal truss system that you could see. It was at least 2-3 feet to the front, back, left, and right of the seating area.
While I can't imagine it NOT being angled inward, it would just be my speculation and not hard fact because, like I mentioned, I couldn't actually see the speaker angle, although I could just barely make out where they were located on the truss system.
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Re: M3 In-Ceiling Loudspeakers
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I finally got a chance to test these. For stereo sound, obviously, they aren't s great choice for 2.0 listening. As a non- ported speaker, with a much smaller cabinet than the full blown M3 they are a bit thin sounding. They would be great in a 2.1 setting though. Very clear and crisp. Great imaging, which should serve me well for Atmos. My AVR (Marantz 7009) set the crossover for these at 100, my on wall M3s were set to 60 by Audessey.
I haven't had a full blown Atmos movie yet, but the Atmos demo disc and using Dolby Surround (Desolation of Smaug, at the end in the mountain with all the falling coins and running from Smaug) has been nothing short of impressive. I also recommend the bonus short from the Frozen 3D blu ray. Mickey flies a plane around the room and it's just crazy.
These sound seamless with my other Axiom speakers. I wouldn't use them as LCR but wouldn't hesitate to use them as surrounds or tops. With door and stud placement in my room I couldn't use them as surrounds- thus the on wall M3s.
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Re: M3 In-Ceiling Loudspeakers
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Got mine today. I posted in the wrong thread earlier... Got mine today. Canada post delivered them at 6pm on a Sunday?!?!? Anyways They sound thin compared to my M3's, of course I'd expect some improvement once installed into ceiling. Looking at the tweeter, I can not see why Axiom can't allow or add some sort of ability to slightly turn and aim the tweeter which is what some people need for atmos. Couple of other things I noticed as well. The two I have are not identical. The black piece that surrounds the woofer on one is textured, the other one is smooth and flat and has a few marks and glue on it from assembly. They both came in one box btw, and no instructions. There are some extra speaker terminals?, stick on Axiom badges, a proper template, and wrenches for assembly etc. I guess they are still working out some details with these as there are some quality things I am seeing like glue and plastic not lining up that are odd given the absolute perfection I am used to seeing from Axiom. The screens are magnetic again but very difficult to get off. They aren't falling off once mounted, lets put it that way. With a sub they actually do not sound bad at all. I was considering ordering two more for Atmos 5.1.4 but I am not sure. Very hard to test these properly given you have to really mount them to hear them as intended and by then you might as well keep them since you have the holes in your ceiling. In my setup I can mount them pretty close to my mlp for atmos so angling them isn't needed for these two, but for the other two it might be.
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Re: M3 In-Ceiling Loudspeakers
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I agree they seem to be a work in progress. I ordered a pair in July when they were on sale, planning on 7.2.2 setup. Then I decided to go for 7.2.4. No instructions with either set, but there are videos at the website. I do like the Allen wrench they included I could chuck up in my drill. The first set had no labels, no banana plugs. The second set did. I like the idea. It was a bit hairy holding a heavy speaker, with no grill in one hand, and trying to wire the posts with the other, all over my head. With the banana plug, you just plug it in and install. It's s nice touch.
Get your plans figured out before you cut holes. Most folks recommend the Top Middle Layout (directly over MLP) for one pair, but if you're using two pair they recommend Top Front and Top Rear, which would be slightly forward and behind the MLP. Don't get hung up on angling the driver. These aren't spotlights, you can hear them off axis. The Dolby white paper recommends straight down as long as your within the recommended angles. My rear speakers aren't angled at the MLP. They are flat on the wall. So are my side surrounds.
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Well, call me a sucker, I'm going to order two more ceiling m3's. I spent the evening sizing up my ceiling and if I am going to dive into this Atmos thing, I'd rather go for four now and be done. I guess I will be one of the first few with Ceiling M3's for atmos.
I gotta feeling it'll be years before we see regular Atmos content but from what people are telling me the upmixer for Atmos is really impressive.
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got two up. Was not fun.
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Ok ok. Too dark now for decent shot. I had to do some compromising as to where they went due to two HVAC pipes and a joist. Will put the other two up next weekend maybe. They should be here Wednesday. I took a listen to them via plain old 2 channel stereo with no sub. Sounds pretty good for ceiling speakers. Obviously the right decision as they match well with the rest of the Axiom's in the room.
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