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#413358 - 07/09/15 01:09 PM New TV - 4K or go 1080
MatManhasgone Offline
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I am getting real close with the Media Room revival. So I am left with the impass at what is best to do.

Options:

1. Wait in buying a new TV. See about getting the old 55" toshiba rptv from the parents basement into my basement and hope it works.
1b. Wait in buying a new TV and live without one

2. Buy a 1080p TV for cheep knowing that in 3-4 years there will be better tech out there for far less than it costs to get good now, but risk that you might be stuck with what you got for a long time.

3. Buy a high end 1080p TV as picture quality rules and who needs 4k.

4. Buy an inexpensive 4K TV as resolution trumps all.


I will admit, I am not a filmaphile and as long as the picture quality is not obsine, I will watch the TV and enjoy it, I put up with the crap that NetFlix sends over the internet (even though I have a 50Mb connection, the supposed HD and UHD comes pixilated. That might be because I have a crappy Samsung smart TV from 2012.

I am sure that I will be far more happy with a 65 or 70" tv over a 50" tv with better video viewing specs.

This brings the question to some of the inexpensive 4K TV's that are out there. There is the Hisense LED TV 65" 65K680UW that gives up the ATSC tv tuner, but I really don't care as I am not going to be watching TV on the screen. I will be watching movies and streamed content.

It's one of those Chinese companies who are trying to break into the North American market and are offering a 4K tv at less than 1/2 the big 4 main brands are.

What are the thoughts??
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#413360 - 07/09/15 01:49 PM Re: New TV - 4K or go 1080 [Re: MatManhasgone]
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There is no substitute for "bigger".

I still like this chart, which indicates that I would need either a gigantic screen or a very short viewing distance in order to benefit from 4K. Those viewing distances might even require suboptimal viewing angles.



I haven't read very many good things about PQ on those Hisense TV's.

We're just using the projector all the time, now. Love it. Can't imagine going back.

Good luck. Have fun.
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#413362 - 07/09/15 03:03 PM Re: New TV - 4K or go 1080 [Re: MatManhasgone]
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Tom, a missing factor in that chart is the age of the viewer. If a person is over 40, reduce everything by a third.

For me, the math shows that anything over a 19" Zenith is unseen resolution. smile
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#413368 - 07/09/15 04:16 PM Re: New TV - 4K or go 1080 [Re: MatManhasgone]
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Hate to be debbie downer.... But finish your room first and buy later.

If you're anything like me, the project will suffer some last minute hiccup and the budget will be strained just to buy some damned seating..... Stupid spring flood.

I hope yours goes snooth until the very end! wink
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#413369 - 07/09/15 04:17 PM Re: New TV - 4K or go 1080 [Re: MatManhasgone]
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Snooth!
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#413370 - 07/09/15 04:23 PM Re: New TV - 4K or go 1080 [Re: MatManhasgone]
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I am not looking to buy right now, but I am one of those people who takes a bit to wrap ones head around something.

Plan now so that when the room does get done, I will have at least some idea what direction I am going in. But it also acts as a motivator to get the project done. It's been going on now for 9 months, so I got to get something to light that fire under my butt to get it moving. The promise of a pair of subs doesn't seem to have worked on me.
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#413376 - 07/09/15 07:40 PM Re: New TV - 4K or go 1080 [Re: MatManhasgone]
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I have a 2014 model 4k (Samsung HU8550) and a 2015 model 4k (Samsung JS9000). I'm not unhappy with the 2014 model, but I wouldn't recommend it. The 2015 model, however, is a quantum leap over any TV I've had. It's not the 4k resolution that makes the difference, IMO, but rather (1) the HDR (= High Dynamic Range) which gives you bright highlights, (2) WCG (= Wide Color Gamut), which gives 92% of the color gamut that is standard in cinema, and (3) upconverting 1080 resolution to 4k, which needs some computational capacity to do well.

But you have to buy a 4k set to get the other, probably more significant, benefits, available on premium 2015 models. It's expensive to get a premium model, though. I doubt that an economy 4k set is a good deal, now.
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#413379 - 07/10/15 12:04 AM Re: New TV - 4K or go 1080 [Re: tomtuttle]
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Originally Posted By tomtuttle
There is no substitute for "bigger".
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We're just using the projector all the time, now. Love it. Can't imagine going back.

Good luck. Have fun.

grin

I'll agree with others here that there is no value in 4K unless you have a really big screen. That chart Tom posted says it all.

I have not looked at any new TV's. Don't need one. I suspect that Greg is spot on about what matters in the new TVs though.
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#413384 - 07/10/15 02:17 AM Re: New TV - 4K or go 1080 [Re: MatManhasgone]
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I am going to gather that I am better off with then option 1 or 1b and wait for the OLED to fall in price to make it cost effective. As 10k for a 65" tv is a bit more that I would like to pay right now
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#413385 - 07/10/15 03:00 AM Re: New TV - 4K or go 1080 [Re: MatManhasgone]
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You could pick up a really nice projector for 10K.
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