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#421773 - 12/28/16 10:55 PM Re: 3rd home theater, trying to do it right.... [Re: aarons]
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More to come tomorrow..... organizing AV cabinet then...
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#421774 - 12/28/16 11:02 PM Re: 3rd home theater, trying to do it right.... [Re: aarons]
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Very nice work!

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#421775 - 12/28/16 11:18 PM Re: 3rd home theater, trying to do it right.... [Re: CV]
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thank you, I'm having a ton of fun doing it. This forum has been amazingly helpful. Gotta give my wife credit for the AV cabinet look. I was going to do a typical framed in wall shelving unit. She had the idea for the rustic door with wire mesh grill.


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#421803 - 12/29/16 10:08 PM Re: 3rd home theater, trying to do it right.... [Re: aarons]
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Finished Product









http://i1371.photobucket.com/albums/ag298/aspicer75/pic_zps0w7ts3gr.jpg

Love the room. Messing around with the settings on the receiver. I waa quite surprised that the auto configuration using the microphone really didnt seem to work at all. It programmed in the incorrect amount of speakers, used 10ft for all distances and left channel levels all the same. Playing around with it manually seems to be the best way to go. Any thoughts on that? Any specific things to look for in terms of setup with Yamaha 3050 receiver?


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#421804 - 12/30/16 12:46 AM Re: 3rd home theater, trying to do it right.... [Re: aarons]
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Wow, that sure came together quickly. Every time I came back to the forum you had another few days of work completed. Looks great !!

I have never trusted auto-calibration so can't really comment other than "+1 for manual" smile
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#421812 - 12/30/16 01:30 PM Re: 3rd home theater, trying to do it right.... [Re: aarons]
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Thanks a bunch. Working on the settings some more tonight. There is more in there than I probably really need but thats always a good thing.



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#421832 - 12/31/16 08:42 AM Re: 3rd home theater, trying to do it right.... [Re: aarons]
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The room looks great. Nice work.

Can't comment specifically on the Yamaha, but I would second setting speaker size manually and measuring distances and spl per channel. I'm not sure about your in-wall subwoofer setup options, but I would recommend spending some time trying to align it with your main channels. Almost always the subs lag behind the mains in time (phase) so it is a good idea to set the distance in your AVR longer than its physical location. You can determine the correct length by playing a sine tone at your crossover frequency and measuring spl at your listening location. Max output means you are in phase. To really get things dialed in you can look at impulse plots and advance as many cycles or "wraps" required to align the sub to mains as closely as possible in the time domain.

It's also probably a good idea to WOW\DVE\MUNSIL disc your PJ as well. Every 6 months is a good idea to keep it on track as the bulb temp and brightness drifts, depending on usage. Takes 10 mins once you get the hang of it. WOW also comes with a pretty handy tool for dialing in lipsync delay. Technical tweaking is the fun part where you can really unlock every last drop of performance you paid for. All the little improvements added up equal a big change.

Looks like a nice spot to watch the big game. cool The grill mesh on your gear cupboard is a great and stylish idea.


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#421840 - 12/31/16 10:58 AM Re: 3rd home theater, trying to do it right.... [Re: aarons]
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Thanks very much. I will try your advice on the subwoofer. right now it is set at the same distance as the mains. I was considering one of the discs for my projector. Last night I watch Don't Breath. Most of the movie is in the dark with the characters using flashlights and such. The blacks looked TERRIBLE, very pixelated. I was at first quite disheartened. I did some quick manual adjusting and was able to improve it greatly so clearly the projector needs calibration. That made me feel a bit better. I may play with it manually for a while and see if I can dial it in myself. I used the WOW DVD with a Mitsubishi rear projection TV once and it didn't seem to make a difference. The TV may have been calibrated to its best potential out of the box, not sure. My projector sure wasnt I know that. Perhaps the DVD will be better used with a PJ?

The mesh grill was my wifes idea. Pretty good one for sure. I will say it was actually surprisingly hard to find and they are quite expensive if you want something pre-finished. $200-$400 for a 24"x48" sheet. There are some unfinished options out there that are a TON cheaper but then you are looking at spray painting and that may not get you the look you want.
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#421882 - 01/01/17 02:06 PM Re: 3rd home theater, trying to do it right.... [Re: nickbuol]
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any pics of your ceiling M3's Nick in relation to your seats? I am trying to get an idea of where I could do the same thing. Also, I assume the M3's are turned sideways since the horizontal pattern would then hit the seating are better? If they were mounted like your side surrounds vertically, unless you really angled them I wouldn't think that would not be ideal.
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#421911 - 01/01/17 11:13 PM Re: 3rd home theater, trying to do it right.... [Re: aarons]
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I will get you some better photos showing the relationship to the seats, but yes, I put them "on their sides" so to speak.

The front and rears need to be at an angle due to my lower ceiling height of 7' 8" or something close to that. The front two are mounted the front ones on Axiom Full Metal Brackets. They are towards the front of the room a little more than standard Atmos angles to 1) allow for more dispersion across more of the seating area (not to hot spot), and 2) so that they also fall within the DTS:X range which is usually a lot closer to the walls.

The rear speakers are more close to the seating area since my 2nd row of seats are closer to the rear wall, so there isn't much difference in the Atmos recommendation and DTS:X recommendation. The angle of the speakers is a lot less because of this location. Since we usually sit in the front row, there isn't any hot spotting. For this lower degree angle, I simply used a cut piece of wood at an angle.

Anyway, here is an image from my build thread until I can get you some current photos. These front ones aren't at this drastic of an angle any more. I also have them "toed in" a hair too.



I will try to get some current photos tomorrow.
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