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yeh and sitting any closer the the tv would be too close
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Hi Troy,
You are getting some great advice here on how to get the most from your system. My 2 cents about the acoustic damping involves some experimenting. The front and rear acoustical panels are almost for sure going to be a good thing. With the side panels I would suggest some experimenting as damping the first reflections can be a step backwards. This said, every room is a new experiment and you will want to make your decision based on the empirical results. I would suggest starting with no side wall acoustical panels and then try one set in each of your locations. From there add the second set locations and then the third.
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The diagram helps for sure. You definitely have room for 2 rear speakers.
You could experiment with 2 on-wall M2s and put them as the rear 2 speakers, then swap the QS8s to the rear and put the M2s on the side walls to see if you like one configuration over the other. You will still want to bump the side surrounds (QS8s or M2s) just in front of your "head" as it rests during normal viewing.
Then grab 4 speakers for your ceiling and never look back. You will have a great space for Atmos.
I am a HUGE fan of room treatments. If you don't have them already, you will really love your room afterwards.
Another option for basstraps is to use 4" OC703 material mounted in a frame like if it was going to go on a wall, but straddle the corner. You will have 4" of great material, plus a nice air gap back to the corner which works almost as well as if you stuffed the corner completely full of insulation, but at a fraction of the cost. Of course you will need more than 1 piece of OC703 (theoretically two pieces per corner to get your 8 foot height to your ceiling).
Not sure if it is cheaper/easier than other options you might be looking at, but it does perform well... very well. If you decide that you want to do something artistic with your wall panels, let me know. I am sort of the "go to" guy over at AVS for custom printed fabric DIY panels. Darn did the math and that puts the rear speakers 16 " from the corners for the 135 deg. and if I go any higher that puts it right in the middle of the door. I am going to look at maybe moving the doorway. towards the middle more and see if I can get 24" off the wall. If not then will go 5.2.4.
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Well, got some 2 x 4 looks like I can move the door over another 18" . I think I can then get a speaker 24" off the side walls. puts it closer to the 150 deg. That gives me 95" between the two rear speakers.
Actually that is perfect. Puts the rears in line with the front which I just measured 24" off the side walls and 95" between
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Just wondering if maybe 5.2.4 would be just as good give the smaller room size. or would the effects etc be better with the 7.4
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I know this is only my experience but I will share my impressions. I don't have atmos yet but in my last house my living room/theater was 12ft wide and backed on to the dining room so I had the back speakers hanging from the ceiling for 7.1. I had many iterations of speakers in that house and for me front heights did way more for the enjoyment factor than the rear surrounds ever did. I now have a new house with a basement room that is 15x15 so I went 5.2 with QS8's which are about4 inches from the hanging ceiling and couldn't be happier. Room treatments are the biggest improvement you will make by far, rather than more speakers imho. I have not heard atmos but I always want the latest and greatest but I am really waffling since what I have now works so well. I really think 5.4 will be more than enough, really 5.2.2 should be more than adequate in a room that size.
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5.2.4 is still a solid option. It was just when I saw that your seats were a decent distance from the rear wall, and that a pair of rear surrounds was possible that I mentioned that option.
If going 5.2.4, then you are good with having the (side) surrounds just slightly behind the listening area too.
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For the ceiling speakers, are most people here using in wall or on wall speakers? If so, is there a way to angle the driver , or does the whole unit need to be angled? I know that ceiling speakers have amiable drivers, not sure about the options for an in wall or on wall.
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speakers already have a dispersion pattern but for Atmos a lot depends on your ceiling height. For 9ft ceilings like mine you don't need as much angle if any. The in ceiling m3s have an adjustable tweeter. Other people have angled on wall speakers if they have lower ceilings.
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