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#423001 - 02/01/17 11:29 AM Re: Crossover design [Re: AAAA]
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Mini dsp 10x10 and 10 amp channels plus cables. I'll take $529. smile

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#423004 - 02/01/17 01:54 PM Re: Crossover design [Re: AAAA]
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You can use software like X-Over pro which is rudimentary compared to LMS plus many others that will graphically show what the changes would be . In the end is comes down to measuring with a good microphone out in the middle of your yard on a quiet day using software like REW to get a desecent frequency response. Then you go inside whre your room screws with everything you ever knew about sound then back to the software change some components on the crossover, back outside when the right conditions are met run tests, rinse and repeat. OR just build the crossover as it was designed and enjoy. Both ways are perfectly acceptable.
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#423008 - 02/01/17 04:37 PM Re: Crossover design [Re: AAAA]
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Designer votes "better" is no harm, but not audibly better likely. I asked him to specify components for me as I'm not doing the crossover as part of my order. Pressing my luck! But he is very nice.

He likes the Mills resistor choice. Decent! They are cheap comparatively speaking vs caps....

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#423009 - 02/01/17 05:18 PM Re: Crossover design [Re: AAAA]
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I think i read somewhere, (loudspeaker cook book components within 10%) Never wrong to go with better quality capacitors or wire wound vs iron core inductors. In the end no way to know if it makes a diff or not unless you build both but i went with quality parts most of which came from Solen.ca There seems to be no limit on what you can spend on crossover parts except when the money runs out.
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#423010 - 02/01/17 05:31 PM Re: Crossover design [Re: AAAA]
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I also used Parts Conexxion they have good quality parts .
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#423011 - 02/01/17 05:45 PM Re: Crossover design [Re: AAAA]
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Hey hey!

Solen has been solid for me so far. Excellent service. I have ordered my woofers, mids and tweets through their online store. The midrange units had production run issues and they have been on backorder since August last year.... I didnt know this before ordering. They called me saying my order couldnt be completed but once they found out I was already 4 sheets of MDF deep they called around and sourced me some from another source (a competitor I think) at no extra cost. Tops!

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#423013 - 02/01/17 06:06 PM Re: Crossover design [Re: AAAA]
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yup they are great, bought an amp for a sub and it started acting weird wouldnt work unless i put pressure on the polarity switch. Sent it back, on my dime but they sent a new one on their dime cant ask for much more given where i live. I bought Axon caps from parts conexxion and few other things they are aces as well imho.

Check them out , just for fun some of the prices are insane .
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#423023 - 02/02/17 05:29 AM Re: Crossover design [Re: AAAA]
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I checked them out. Hilarious. I like how the higher end capacitors start to resemble some steampunk coaster shaped artifacts you'd go searching for in a video game like Bioshock. Awesome. Beeswax has power!!!!! laugh

After speaking to the designer a little more I get where Alan and Mojo are coming from a little better. He has a preference for certain parts over others, but said as long as the values are maintained that's the biggest part.... at first. Then when I pressed my luck he started to share some alchemy that leads to the whole 1+1=3 we all strive for. Sure, more expensive parts may be a 4, but I'd rather pay for combining two 1s to get closer. smile It turns out using certain combinations of parts yields better performance -for like a buck more. Kinda like tweaking your Honda. Not gonna make it a racecar, but for a few bucks more why not.

I fully understand how DIY speaker building becomes a hobby unto itself. So many variables and rabbit holes to chase through. And the $ goes as far as you wanna take it!

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#423030 - 02/02/17 01:05 PM Re: Crossover design [Re: AAAA]
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Heres hopin they sound good to you in the end. I have a tin ear, i know what i like when i hear it but fine tuning a speaker not something i have the patience for. Like everything in audio, there are diminishing returns as more money is spent. Keep us posted with some pics along the way.
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