Re: Advice for surround speakers - QS4, QS8 or on-wall
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Another interesting item is the miniDSP. Full Dirac in a little box. Wonder if using that would make a lesser cost Processor/A.V.R. comparable. As the Dirac is supposedly second to A.R.C. though the unit looks more like a processor to power amp. Bypass, so not sure if it is compatible with regular A.V.R.s.
I myself have no intention on going Atmos yet though the blueray coding through my current 7.1 is somewhat fantastic, seems to have more surround content than previous 5.1 releases.
Plus having the actual processing for Atmos with all content. must be sending a lot more to those ambient channels I would suspect.
Another congrats on your successful upgrade Mr. Quack
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Re: Advice for surround speakers - QS4, QS8 or on-wall
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your talking minidsp . that's not Dirac In order to get the DIRAc processor etc your out $1500cdn http://solen.ca/?s=minidsp&post_type=productthe minidsp2x4 will do auto corection on the subs. You can auto correct with the minisp10x10 but your up $900. I am playing with that now for EQ my EP350 with a DSP1124P and REW but, I am already $400 in with the DSP1124 $120 and $155 for a measurement mic. Another $50 for usb to midi cable. It is fun playing around and yes, you really can notice a difference with the sub. However, once I upgrade to the AVM60 or MRX720 this will all be moot. oh and most would put DIRAC above ARC but at a cost oh and or if in the USA minidsp.com the processor is $999 https://www.minidsp.com/products/dirac-series/ddrc-88a
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When i first read Brendo's post i thought , hell no Dirac is better than ARC but then i thought about it. I have not heard ARC but i know ARC handles the subs much better than how Dirac does it so really i think they are both great RC programs but for bass which needs the most attention ARC gets the nod. I have Dirac and i still use a minidsp 2x4 to get the subs right.
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But if your using the minidsp 2x4 your using the proprietary 2way Advanced 12 program not DIRAC. Unless your receiver of course has DIRAC
With the DIRAC if your using one of the minidsp processors you have to purchase it for $500us.
or the DDRC88A with bass management at like $1425cdn at solen.
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Sorry Troy, i guess i wasnt quite as clear as i thought i was being. My pre/pro has Dirac but it doesnt handle dual subs correctly . Audyssey subeq polls each sub separately to get the positions then analyzes each sub and then sums them but Dirac treats 2 subs as one. This isnt a problem for me now since my subs are at the front and symetrical but when i had the subs in different parts of the room i used a minidsp.I have never had 4 subs but the problem would be exacerbated .With subeq i think you could at least make 2 groups of subs to allow it to analyze the subs.
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My self I haven't tried either of those. Dirac or the A.R.C. being in a larger Canadian city can easily find Anthem but not Emotiva or a dirac unit.
Just in my reading have found those to be the top 2 at the moment. Along with high praise for the minidsp units.
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I had Audyssey xt and never really liked what it did, so i left it off. Dirac is another story entirely, it really brings the whole package together , its really hard to put into words, it just makes everything seem more cohesive. I have heard good things about ARC and how they do bass is good as well if i had the money. I have no money and i want PJ.
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Sorry Troy, i guess i wasnt quite as clear as i thought i was being. My pre/pro has Dirac but it doesnt handle dual subs correctly . Audyssey subeq polls each sub separately to get the positions then analyzes each sub and then sums them but Dirac treats 2 subs as one. This isnt a problem for me now since my subs are at the front and symetrical but when i had the subs in different parts of the room i used a minidsp.I have never had 4 subs but the problem would be exacerbated .With subeq i think you could at least make 2 groups of subs to allow it to analyze the subs. ah ok, I just don't clue in unless it's really spelled out sometimes
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I had Audyssey xt and never really liked what it did, so i left it off. Dirac is another story entirely, it really brings the whole package together , its really hard to put into words, it just makes everything seem more cohesive. I have heard good things about ARC and how they do bass is good as well if i had the money. I have no money and i want PJ. Love ARC, it is awesome both in sound and configurationable ( if that is even a word )
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Hello to all,
I am reopening the subject because I still have not bought the surround speakers. One thing that was missing from my room’s description was that my home theater is opens at the back to a stairwell that goes from the basement to the main floor of the house.
I am putting here the specs of the room:
My home theater is in a family room that is 12' wide by 19' long. The couch is at 9’ from the TV and the wall is at 3’ from each side of the couch
So considering that the room is open at the back, should I use QS8 speakers or M3 on-wall speakers
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