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Re: Do I really have room for M60s?? Hoping so!
#42410 04/22/04 04:00 AM
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Necessity is the mother of invention (or so they say).


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Re: Do I really have room for M60s?? Hoping so!
#42411 04/22/04 04:45 AM
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Not a half bad idea Mark, thanks. See the fruits of your inspiration below.



But you forget one thing, my friend; the WAF, e.g.: "OK for you to just roll the piano in a corner - you don't play now do you?"

Not to mention swinging the speakers/receiver past the WAF given several other 'toys' I've picked up recently, now throw in a new chair 'necessitated' in order to utilize said speakers. Ouch. I'll need to do some heavy strategizing before going down this road!

You know, in all this rigamarole (yes, I did need to look up that spelling ) and options explored, there's still no friggin good place to put a media rack. Note in my first diag I've got it laying low in front of the tv.

Also, any thoughts on whether I would need a VP150 or whether VP100 would be more than enough? Same for QS8 vs QS4?

thanks a bunch guys for your patience and perseverance.

Re: Do I really have room for M60s?? Hoping so!
#42412 04/22/04 04:55 AM
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Well now this is really neat.
Ppl give him ideas and he comes back with a new drawing each time and added pictures to boot.
Fantastic.

Considering the new configuration, perhaps you could lose the small table in the far right corner atop the couch, put the sub in there instead (usually a good location up front with the main speakers...often works well) then put the media rack where the Hsu is presently. That way when you are playing pool, your media rack is right handy and if you are on the couch, all you need to do is swing your arm lovingly over your wife like you were snuggling, but really you are just turning up the volume.

Hey, she will at least get a new chair and ottoman to pick out no?



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#42413 04/22/04 05:24 AM
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Fabulous drawings. I envy.

To answer your question directly, I wanted floorstanders. No amount of rationalizing was going to get me any way "happy" or "satisfied" by buying even wonderful bookshelves like the M22. I was also thinking in terms of long-term flexibility. You may not always have the couch, piano, pool table, etc. in that room. You obviously want the M60's. I'm not going to try to talk you out of them. I had them in a 13' deep room with the couch on one side and the speakers and a big RPTV on the other. Small imaging sweet-spot, but full, rich, fabulous sound. Get 'em and don't look back.

The QS4's now have the same tweeter as the 8's. If you are not pursuing SACD or DVDA, I'm sure they will provide wonderful surround for you, especially if your receiver has good bass management that would allow you to vary the sub crossover point for each speaker.

Both the VP100 and 150 seem universally loved. It is a difficult question because that is a big room, but you are not really using much of it for the HT.

I still really like the most recent scenario the best by a wide margin, especially with Jack's idea about mitigating the couch somewhat.

When can you come draw my house? My wife LIKES to rearrange furniture.


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Re: Do I really have room for M60s?? Hoping so!
#42414 04/22/04 01:27 PM
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How would it look if you rotated the couch so that the longer end is facing the TV? And then the chair on the right side of the couch? Does that leave you enough room to get by? If so, I think that is what I would do. But I would have to see a nice CAD drawing of it first.

TV

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(Couch) (Chair)

Re: Do I really have room for M60s?? Hoping so!
#42415 04/22/04 01:45 PM
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What about this?



You'd have to move the piano bench to play pool, and the walkway behind the couch is a bit narrow, but otherwise it looks feasible to me.

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#42416 04/22/04 02:19 PM
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This is what I was thinking actually, although with some subtle changes.

1) I don't think the recliner is needed anymore.

2) The sub can go in the corner behind the couch and your entertainment rack can go where it is.

3) the piano can maybe get "flipped" (mirror-style) from it's original position over to the right wall next to the m60 (where the table is now).


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#42417 04/22/04 02:48 PM
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That is what I was thinking. Although I was thinking about the TV on the top wall and the couch facing it like you have in the picture. I think that was it gives you more space to be further back from the M60's. Someone who has them could tell you better about how far apart they should be and how far to sit from them. Plus, then the M60's are facing the pool table which would be cool too.

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#42418 04/23/04 12:54 AM
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Isn't your wife aware of the fact that pianos sound MUCH better in a garage?


M- M60s/VP150/QS8s/SVS PC-Ultra/HK630 Sit down. Shut up. Listen.
Re: Do I really have room for M60s?? Hoping so!
#42419 04/23/04 02:14 AM
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Michael, if I suggest that, I'm going to end up in the garage - with a pillow!!

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