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#427361 - 12/07/17 10:04 PM what to get for a new Firewall for home
MatManhasgone Offline
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My old Netgear has bitten the dust. It has decided it doesn't want to play nice any more so I had to resort to turning my ISP provided modem/router back to the router/firewall setting.

I know that I need something better but don't know what yet. I looked at getting something with a mesh wifi network, but then I don't know if that is going to give me a propper firewall to protect me from the baddies out there.

Another option is that I was given a retired IP350 Nokia Checkpoint device. This is a good 13 years old but it was a pretty powerful industreal firewall in its day. I am sure it would be far overkill for a home use, but I bet that it would keep anyone out that is trying to get into my home network.

Or am I just over thinking it and pick up the next consumer router/firewall that comes on sale at bestbuy and call it a day.
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#427370 - 12/08/17 05:59 PM Re: what to get for a new Firewall for home [Re: MatManhasgone]
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I often use Asus routers but virtually most of the big brand names with AC wireless these days are pretty good. I went hunting for reviews a few months ago and it was hard to determine which models really had better distance, speed, etc. It varied from review to review.

Changing the default firmware for Broadcom chips over to MerlinWRT has also been an excellent experience for tweaking controls.

I like the idea of the mesh for better home coverage, but i'm waiting for the technology to mature. Could always use a repeater as well. Not a huge issue for most people's uses. Hard core gamers may not like them.


A few of the reviews i was reading plus reviews from my mag subscription for MaxPC:
https://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2398080,00.asp
https://www.lifewire.com/802-11ac-wi-fi-wireless-routers-818077
http://www.gadgetreview.com/best-wireless-router-for-home-gaming-mac-overall
https://10beasts.com/best-wireless-routers/
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#427371 - 12/08/17 07:23 PM Re: what to get for a new Firewall for home [Re: MatManhasgone]
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The problem that most of the reviews are missing. The idea that a Wireless Access Point is a totally different thing that a Router that is totally different than a Firewall.

In an industrial environmen, each one of those would be in a separate device. You don't see any Cisco routers that have the wireless antenna attached to it. It sits as an edge device between the internal LAN and the internet on the outside. Likewise, a firewall sits between the router and your network switch. Any traffic that has to go outside the switched LAN must pass through your firewall so that any blocking or policy rules can be applied. Any traffic comming in from the internet must also pass through the firewall so that unwanted packets and spoofing can be dropped and only stateful valid packets that match open port requests from compters inside your network make it in. The Wireless network falls at the network switch level.

Now for home users, they like to put all that into a single box. They take the barest of minimal design and work on the theory that a home network would not want to be hacked so they just protect against the most basic of intrusion protection.

take a read of

https://www.tomsguide.com/us/home-router-security,news-19245.html

https://www.techworld.com/tutorial/secur...ys-out-3609122/

https://arstechnica.com/information-tech...exploited-flaw/

So that is why I am left asking the quetion. Am I far better off to break the mold in the way I have been doing things and move to a more industreal corporate model with the router doing just that.. routing. And have a dedicated firewall box that does the internet protecting of my network that sits behind it. then put in the wireless network part connected to the switch that doesn't to anything other than add a wireless access point to the local switch.
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