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#430693 - 12/14/18 02:53 PM Re: Ordered M60, VP150, now thinking M5's and VP180... *** [Re: Dragbug]
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Going back to soundstage (I think this is the right thread :)) I wanted to mention that last night I moved a bunch of stuff (mostly other speakers) out from between the M5HP's and noticed a significant improvement in the "sharpness" and even-ness of the different sounds/instruments/voices across the soundstage.

Not necessarily any larger (everything I played was pretty conventionally mixed so sounds appeared mostly between the speakers rather than outside them) but the location of sounds was definitely more clear.

Seemed to be a bit more vertical spread between sounds, although it's still not clear how that would actually work other than higher frequency sounds appearing a bit higher physically because relatively more of the sound is coming from drivers mounted further up the front panel.

Anyways, I think I'm going to set up a reminder message to myself telling me to take all the accumulated crap out of the speaker area every month or so.


Edited by bridgman (12/14/18 02:54 PM)
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#430694 - 12/14/18 08:42 PM Re: Ordered M60, VP150, now thinking M5's and VP180... [Re: Dragbug]
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You gotta stop sabotaging your sound, John. Get all that sh!t outta there. Your room should have only two speakers, a chair and a brain in it. smile

As for the height, I too have no clue how it's done but I do know it has nothing to do with the relative height of the drivers. I've heard trumpets with the v4 that are way in the back corner 5' high and others that are more forward, higher up and left or right of centre. I never heard placement like that with v2.

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#430695 - 12/15/18 12:23 AM Re: Ordered M60, VP150, now thinking M5's and VP180... [Re: Mojo]
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Originally Posted By Mojo
You gotta stop sabotaging your sound, John. Get all that sh!t outta there. Your room should have only two speakers, a chair and a brain in it. smile


I think it's his brain in the room that is causing the problem.
In some new future, he'll have all the stuff including the speakers moved out of the room and finally have his perfect soundstage only to realize something is still missing...like sound....
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#430699 - 12/15/18 01:03 AM Re: Ordered M60, VP150, now thinking M5's and VP180... [Re: Dragbug]
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Damn, you are so right...and smart too! You must be from The 'Peg.

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#430700 - 12/15/18 01:00 PM Re: Ordered M60, VP150, now thinking M5's and VP180... [Re: chesseroo]
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Originally Posted By chesseroo
... and finally have his perfect soundstage only to realize something is still missing...like sound....

What would we call it... "quietstage" ?
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#430701 - 12/15/18 02:55 PM Re: Ordered M60, VP150, now thinking M5's and VP180... [Re: Dragbug]
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I've been dreaming of starting a company called ZEROEAR. I want to by-pass the sterecilia and connect directly to the nerve fibers. The problem is, we really don't understand how the brain fuses electrical signals from the stereocilia. Investors don't want to fund science projects.

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#430703 - 12/15/18 09:31 PM Re: Ordered M60, VP150, now thinking M5's and VP180... [Re: Mojo]
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Originally Posted By Mojo
Damn, you are so right...and smart too! You must be from The 'Peg.

No one is dumb enough to admit such an atrocity.
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#430704 - 12/15/18 09:36 PM Re: Ordered M60, VP150, now thinking M5's and VP180... [Re: bridgman]
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Originally Posted By bridgman
Originally Posted By chesseroo
... and finally have his perfect soundstage only to realize something is still missing...like sound....

What would we call it... "quietstage" ?


Yes, also known as "The Bridgman Art of Glorious Sound" or TBAGS because everyone loves more acronyms.
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#430705 - 12/16/18 12:17 AM Re: Ordered M60, VP150, now thinking M5's and VP180... [Re: Dragbug]
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Ahhhhhh! Intelligent conversation like the good ol' days.

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#430711 - 12/16/18 09:49 PM Re: Ordered M60, VP150, now thinking M5's and VP180... [Re: Dragbug]
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Speaking of soundstage, can the feet be removed from the VP180? The place I have it right now, there is a bar that doesn't block the speakers really but, I think might be blocking the sound a little as I noticed the sound is different than when I tested the speaker before I stuffed it under the TV. It's basically in the same place that the VP100 was but moved slightly back because it sits so much higher that the bar makes it sit further back.
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