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#433167 - 08/31/19 06:57 PM Re: ADA1500 - Trigger Cable [Re: SRoode]
SRoode Offline
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Oh, and I'm Steve!
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#433168 - 08/31/19 08:05 PM Re: ADA1500 - Trigger Cable [Re: SRoode]
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The M5 is indeed much, much better than the M80v2. If you think the M80v2 is clear with the 1500, wait 'till you hear the M100.

You can always trade in the 180 for a real 180 and ask for another signature. It would be worth doing if you have pre-v4 tweeters. Also the aluminum dust cap really helps with heat dissipation and improves linearity. A lot was done between v3 and v4 that doesn't get talked about.
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#433196 - 09/06/19 03:59 PM Re: ADA1500 - Trigger Cable [Re: SRoode]
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Mojo, quick question.

On your EP800, where do you set the physical crossover knob? Do you turn it all the way up to 150Hz and let the receiver handle the crossover or do you turn it down? Thanks!
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#433197 - 09/06/19 04:06 PM Re: ADA1500 - Trigger Cable [Re: SRoode]
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I turn it all the way up to 150Hz and let the receiver handle the crossover.

With the 800v4, all I did was set it once and forget it. The only thing I twiddle with is the 'nad tickler/gut punch switch. 'nad tickler for movies and gut punch for music. But even without that switch, the 800v4 is so excellent.
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#433198 - 09/06/19 04:45 PM Re: ADA1500 - Trigger Cable [Re: SRoode]
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Thanks Mojo! My EP800s are the pre-order first issue ones, so no switch. smile
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#433250 - 09/11/19 07:50 PM Re: ADA1500 - Trigger Cable [Re: SRoode]
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Alright! 248 lbs of speakers are ready to cross the border!

upload pictures
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#433251 - 09/11/19 07:59 PM Re: ADA1500 - Trigger Cable [Re: SRoode]
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Oh yeah? I got the same signature. And Andrew's as well. I wanted a photo of the M5HP design team and the M5's Family of Curves too. I was gonna create a little altar and pay homage every time I listened. laugh

Wait 'till you hear what you've been missing!
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#433303 - 09/14/19 06:54 AM Re: ADA1500 - Trigger Cable [Re: SRoode]
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The speakers arrived yesterday! Very quick shipping. I unboxed them right away and was immediately taken back by the size of both the M100 and the QS10. They are both much larger than the M80 and QS8. I LOVE the QS10 mounting bracket/power tab combo. It was super easy to install where my former mounting bracket was and to be able to just drop the speaker into place and have it powered was awesome. After hooking everything up I re-ran Audyssey to calibrate the new system. One of the M100s must be wired backwards internally because the Denon warned me that the left speaker was wired backwards. I checked my cables and I was wired correctly, so I just swapped my cables and finished the calibration. The Denon correctly assigned a 60 Hz crossover for the new QS10s, and left my existing rear QS8s at a 90 Hz crossover. Of course the M100s and the VP180 were set to "Large" automatically.

The sound of the M100v4 compared to the M80v2 is a night and day difference. The "punch" that I felt was lacking is definitely there now. But what surprised me the most initially is that they are definitely louder. I have to set the Denon about 3 or 4 decibels lower than what I usually set it at for my normal listening volume. I didn't run my db meter app to see if it is actually louder, but I could tell it is.

We listened to a bunch of different music selections last night and all of them sounded amazing, super clear, and "different" than they did with the old speakers. It really is interesting how different (in a positive way) the music sounded by simply going from the M80v2s to the M100v4s. I never would have thought it would make such a dramatic improvement in the sound quality.

Tonight we are going to put the QS10s to the test. I just picked up Avengers - Endgame, and it will be family movie night with the kids. I'll let you know how they perform, but I'm sure we will all be blown away.

Edit - I forgot to add. After listening for about 5 hours yesterday at a pretty loud volume (-6 db on average), the Denon was hot to the touch and the ADA1500 was not even what I would consider warm. It was almost cool to the touch.
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#433304 - 09/14/19 09:32 AM Re: ADA1500 - Trigger Cable [Re: SRoode]
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My Onk sets my QS10s to 50Hz. Of course this is room and position-dependent. I love the bass from them. If Ian built a QS with triple HP drivers, I'd upgrade in a heartbeat.

With my old Denon, I'd get an out-of-phase warning from time to time during calibration with the M80v2. I knew this couldn't be based on the centre image I was getting and a quick mono pink noise test confirmed the Denon was getting confused.

It really is a night and day difference as you say and this is due to multiple factors in the v4. It's not only that they are larger, have one more woofer and are HP. The M3v4 have none of that and sound better than the M80v2.

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A-LFR/1000-8/500v4x2 coming
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100,160,QS10x2,800,M5,M3,M50 v4
had v2
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#433305 - 09/14/19 11:07 AM Re: ADA1500 - Trigger Cable [Re: SRoode]
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Mojo - Would you recommend that I switch the wires back on the "out of phase" speaker?
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