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#434806 - 12/17/19 10:54 AM Re: AVR specs explained - need more power? [Re: minorc]
Mojo Offline
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No. Axiom's amps are totally different than Bryston's.
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#434825 - 12/18/19 06:32 PM Re: AVR specs explained - need more power? [Re: minorc]
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In one vid. Mr. Tanner states they've helped Axiom with their amps. The topology is totally different as Bryston doesn't do class D. A beefy toroid stage is a beefy toroid either way.

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#434829 - 12/18/19 07:05 PM Re: AVR specs explained - need more power? [Re: minorc]
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It's totally an Axiom design. Sure, Andrew or Tom may have picked up the phone one day and called their Bryston colleagues to get opinions about an area they were stuck on but that's the extent of it.

The DSP however is another matter altogether.
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had v2;v4 FOC rock
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#435249 - 01/14/20 06:48 PM Re: AVR specs explained - need more power? [Re: minorc]
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A little update:

Picked up a Rotel RMB-1585 5 channel amp from my local Hifi shop, I plan on eventually going into separates instead of an all in one, so this is a step in that direction.

I noticed an immediate difference, happy with the purchase.


Edited by minorc (01/14/20 06:49 PM)
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#435250 - 01/14/20 07:01 PM Re: AVR specs explained - need more power? [Re: minorc]
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In soundstage and imaging in 2-channel?

Congrats!
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100,160,QS10x2,800,M5x2,M2/3/50v4
had v2;v4 FOC rock
Nx maybe

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#435251 - 01/14/20 07:42 PM Re: AVR specs explained - need more power? [Re: minorc]
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Originally Posted By minorc
A little update:

Picked up a Rotel RMB-1585 5 channel amp from my local Hifi shop, I plan on eventually going into separates instead of an all in one, so this is a step in that direction.

I noticed an immediate difference, happy with the purchase.

Ya that's a slight step up power wise compared to any AVR.
http://www.rotel.com/product/rmb-1585

I didn't know anyone in Sudbury sold anything this pricey. (i used to live there)

Although there are limits as to whether more power will make any sound difference, compared to an AVR, depending on the volume level, depending on how low the impedance goes for your entire set and how much power it pulls even at lower SPL, an amp can certainly make a difference. This is for overall SPL though (not sound 'character'). It is highly improbable you would hear any 'sound character' differences between amps in a controlled test. No one has been able to pull it off yet.
The AVRs, well who knows what kind of things are put in the circuitry paths of those things.


Edited by chesseroo (01/14/20 07:43 PM)
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#435252 - 01/14/20 08:00 PM Re: AVR specs explained - need more power? [Re: minorc]
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Chess, that Rotel has an upgraded power cord compared to his old AVR.
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100,160,QS10x2,800,M5x2,M2/3/50v4
had v2;v4 FOC rock
Nx maybe

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#435253 - 01/14/20 08:11 PM Re: AVR specs explained - need more power? [Re: Mojo]
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Originally Posted By Mojo
Chess, that Rotel has an upgraded power cord compared to his old AVR.

I have a Rotel in my office setup. I like it. Definitely more power than my 1980s Harmon Kardon which served me well for years and now does duty in the father in laws' garage.
I also like the fact that is has A / B speaker switching so i can swap between my two speaker sets on the desk. I can also test new desktop speakers in a rough a/b manner with it (not level matched of course which is the limitation).


Edited by chesseroo (01/14/20 08:12 PM)
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#435254 - 01/14/20 08:20 PM Re: AVR specs explained - need more power? [Re: minorc]
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There's nothing not to like about it. I'm envious.
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1000-3,1500-3
100,160,QS10x2,800,M5x2,M2/3/50v4
had v2;v4 FOC rock
Nx maybe

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#435255 - 01/14/20 08:26 PM Re: AVR specs explained - need more power? [Re: minorc]
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Awwwwwww damn! It has two fans!! Cheaters!!!
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1000-3,1500-3
100,160,QS10x2,800,M5x2,M2/3/50v4
had v2;v4 FOC rock
Nx maybe

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