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Speakers behind screen
#435402 01/21/20 11:01 PM
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Thinking about pulling my L&R speakers from behind the wall of screen.
On paper it works...
With the MLP and L&R 7' off their (front and rear) walls the MLP and L&R will form an 8' equalatteral triangle. The center will still be ~9' from the MLP and will be just behind the screen.
Pretty sure it will be at the expense of picture quality and picture size.
I won't know if I can shrink the image small enough to fit between the towers until I do it.
8' is pretty close though...
Tempting.

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MLP would be 6' from side walls, 7' off the back wall and 8' from L,R,LRS & RRS.



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Wait! I thought your room was acoustic perfection. Why are you doing this?


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Lol. I didnt say that.
Kinda like hearing something you like from each speaker series, I often like the difference I hear with different speaker locations.

Looking back this is damn near what was suggested years back "Blairs Den V2" with the notable difference of the L&R being infront of the screen.

Projector Centrals calculator suggests it'll work with a 84" diagonal image.

I would be about that far from the screen.

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Might have to back to a lazyboy in the sweet spot.



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Think I'll leave the speakers where they are and move the screen up to the new location.
Toy with the image quality there first.



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Atta boy!


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Couldn't help myself.
Loving it.
Left the seats,subs and surrounds alone. Moved the wall of screen and LCR.
Screen size is perfect.
Haven't adjusted the focus yet but its already good enough for the moment.
L&R are 8' apart,2' off the side walls(tweeters) as planned.
Some interesting points of note already but I'll likely keep it (for a while). Lol.

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Watching Curious George with my youngest.
Critical listening at its finest. Lol.
Seriously satisfied though.

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How far away is MLP? And how far from the front wall are the fronts?


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Back row over 10 feet to the speakers and screen.
Kids loveseat seven and a half feet.


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Bringing back memories about bean bag talk.

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With toe in I was able to widen the screen the same 24" from the sidewall as be back of the speaker.
~110" Diagonal



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Tweeters are 7' off the front wall.

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Oh yeah? 7 feet, huh? You must have some amazing depth going on.


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Lol.
Lots of wasted space maybe.
Might get a chance to listen in the dark tonight.



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brwsaw #435512 01/27/20 11:33 PM
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Not wasted space. "My God, it's full of acoustic images." smile


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What really stood out was the clatiry of brass instruments. Curious Goerge has lots.
With respect to image quality it improved to and I still feel the need to touch up the focus.



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brwsaw #435514 01/28/20 12:03 AM
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Odd observations..
Haven't looked at these speakers for years.
The center behind the screen is crazy good. Its added something.
Its weird. Lol.



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Theres an unfamiliar authority that has my attention.

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Its not SPL specific



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brwsaw #435517 01/28/20 02:51 AM
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That's your M80s begging to be upgraded to active LFR1100s.


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Ha!



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brwsaw #435519 01/28/20 04:27 AM
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Blair, your speaker re-arrangement is inspiring me to bi-amp my 160. We'll see if I can make its dust caps glow red.


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Think I'll wait for my own actives before I get another amp involved.



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brwsaw #435523 01/28/20 06:16 AM
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Me thinks it could use a hair more tow in.



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brwsaw #435526 01/29/20 03:08 AM
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2" pivot and they're still not aimed directly at the mlp.
Funny how things go. Like some aspects others not so much.

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"Tighter" bass, improved imaging but narrower soundstage. Nirvana lies somewhere between no toe-in and extreme toe-in for MLPs less than 12 feet.


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Ran out of time lol.
Back to work...



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Endless soundstage, Blair. Make me proud, bro!


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Tight confines = just do the best you can
Lol



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Surrounds nearly off at -10 and -9.5 respectively and still the image from the lcr interferes with the surrounds/vice versa but the afore mentioned authority needs them on at its best.
Still testing the waters...
Moved the seat back nearly to where it has been.



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