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#435663 - 02/12/20 06:20 PM A new Axiom product? Please....think clock RADIO!
chesseroo Offline
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The Water Cooler forum - Post comments, suggestions,....

I have a suggestion, how about Axiom makes a really good clock radio.

I've been looking around on and off for years for a good clock radio that has the following:

  • LED lighted panel with variable contrast
  • Small footprint, preferably taller than wider (but both orientations work depending on where we put our clocks; options are good).
  • Wood finished look, preferably real wood grain, not vinyl or otherwise.
  • Remote (so i can turn off the morning alarm at a distance when the clock is not near me).
  • Does not cost $300 or more (not unless i knew it would last 20 years but even then, i won't be buying a $1000 clock radio ever).


I found Tivoli and Sangean as being the two most qualified brands to fulfill my needs.
A Sangean sits in our kitchen (https://www.amazon.ca/Sangean-WR-22WL-Bl...F22DBRQ636Z4KY8)






and another, different style, on one of the bedside tables (https://www.sangean.com/products/product.asp?mid=37&cid=4).



A Tivoli sits on my bedside table (https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/739433-REG/Tivoli_M10WL_Model_10_AM_FM_Clock.html).


The problems?
Tivoli was stupid expensive over $300 if i recall, and i had to get the clock repaired twice because it wouldn't keep time properly. It still doesn't and i have to reset the time about once every two months because it runs up to 5-10 minutes fast or 5 minutes slow over that period.

The sound sucks. I don't know who they have online pumping up reviews of Tivoli radios, but it sucks. The Sangean isn't much better but at least it sounds a bit more clear.

The remotes for both are bizarre. They are small and flimsy'ish', but it is more the layout and menu GUI that aren't straightforward. If the "RMS" on the Sangean is set to "RTD" or "RTS" or something like that, it messes up the time on the clock. Supposed to be some kind of auto function checking the radio station time stamp to set your time but its all effed up. Does the manual help a user figure this out?
Hell no.

The LED contrast is fading and the clock is only 3-4 years old. Soon i won't be able to even see the clock and then i'm going to have to go and buy another clock; of what i have no idea! Same thing is happening for the kitchen Sangean but thankfully it was only a $100 unit (Amazon has it listed now for $200).

Seriously. For that kind of $, is it so hard to make a good digital LED clock that just works??

I bet Axiom could market something that will kill Tivoli and Sangean. Start with the basic M1 speaker, add some height and insert a clock and remove the computer based features.
Boom. Done.
Reduce costs by developing a single driver system (it is all that Tivoli and Sangean use anyway).

Thoughts?

Should Axiom make a competitive clock radio?
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Edited by chesseroo (02/12/20 06:27 PM)
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#435671 - 02/13/20 01:56 PM Re: A new Axiom product? Please....think clock RADIO! [Re: chesseroo]
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#435672 - 02/13/20 03:21 PM Re: A new Axiom product? Please....think clock RADIO! [Re: Ian]
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Ian - hit Chess for $200 for the upgrade! laugh
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#435673 - 02/13/20 05:28 PM Re: A new Axiom product? Please....think clock RADIO! [Re: Ian]
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Originally Posted By Ian
Hi chesseroo,

Your AxiomAir has both an Alarm built-in and a Sleep function:


Yes and no clock and its the size of a dual large toaster oven.
That won't go over well in the bedroom. I don't think it would even fit on the bedside table.
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#435674 - 02/13/20 05:28 PM Re: A new Axiom product? Please....think clock RADIO! [Re: craigsub]
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Originally Posted By craigsub
Ian - hit Chess for $200 for the upgrade! laugh

Upgrade an M1 for $200 more?
A $900 clock?
OUch.
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#435675 - 02/13/20 09:46 PM Re: A new Axiom product? Please....think clock RADIO! [Re: chesseroo]
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Originally Posted By chesseroo
Originally Posted By craigsub
Ian - hit Chess for $200 for the upgrade! laugh

Upgrade an M1 for $200 more?
A $900 clock?
OUch.


You are being grumpy. The upgrade quip was a joke about the Axiom Air you already have. wink
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#435677 - 02/13/20 10:12 PM Re: A new Axiom product? Please....think clock RADIO! [Re: chesseroo]
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Ah well, then, that takes the $1100 Air to a $1300 Air with the clock upgrade.
Double ouch.
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#435681 - 02/13/20 10:43 PM Re: A new Axiom product? Please....think clock RADIO! [Re: chesseroo]
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Maybe Ian will toss in the toaster oven free?
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#435684 - 02/14/20 01:24 AM Re: A new Axiom product? Please....think clock RADIO! [Re: chesseroo]
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I want a high-fidelity doorbell too.

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#435686 - 02/14/20 10:10 AM Re: A new Axiom product? Please....think clock RADIO! [Re: chesseroo]
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While I get the concept, I can't see this being a huge market for any company to undertake the development of products.
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