Axiom Home Page Forums General Discussion Stereo M2 vs M3 vs M5 a very quick unscientific eval

Rich, when Rebulx says he prefers the older tweeters over the new ones, he is comparing his M50ti tweeters from 30 years ago to the v4.

The v4 tweeters I've heard on various Axiom gear purchased in 2017, 2018, 2019 all sound great and I'd never want the v2 ones back.

My ears are used to the "ti" versions that is about 15 years old. Ian is trying to find some old tweeters so I can add new speakers with that bright sound I'm used too and enjoy so very much.

Poor Ian.

Rebulx, please listen to those new tweets for a while before you change them. You may grow to like them. Besides, when you get the emo, you may cook the ti tweeters or worse - fry your brain cells from ti tweeter distortion.

I’m with mojo on this one Rebulx. I’ve got the “ ti “ tweet and unless it’s an exceptionally good recording I find them a touch bright. There’s times I enjoy that mind you, but overall if they could have a smoother roll off I’d give m60ti a 10/10 or 5 stars or whatever.

To be fair though I haven’t heard v4 tweeters.

I wonder if you use your new amplifier with the v4 tweet that they may be more to your liking. Not brighter mind you , but more alive. I’ve read ( and agree with ) the fact that adding more power and headroom brings things to a new level of clean and precise.

Are you finding the the tweets lacking in movies and effects more ? Or in 2 channel music? Or both?

I’ve been in friend home theatre and the tweet was harsh and grainy but he liked it bc it was loud and made you jump etc. I’m thinking adding more power with you more life in the system and maybe be more fulfilling as I’m sure your avr is underpowered for the m100 true potential.

You could try your m50 tweets in there? Would that work with crossovers?....,,

So I’ve been thinking about this tweeter thing more.......

The “ ti “ tweeter might not sound good in the m100. I would question Ian on it for sure. The new v4 tweet is likely “ optimized “ with crossover. You may not actually get the old ti sound out of the m100 crossover.

It’s worth a shot if you really really need that ti sound but I would guess that Ian and Andrew know what they’re doing when matching components. I’m saying this with an inquisitive tone not a reluctant tone.

Maybe I should try a v4 tweeter in my ti. ? Would that work or do I run into the same issue as I described above.

My gut feeling is it’s not as easy as just plug and play.

On another note if Ian does find some ti tweeters I’d like a pair to have here on standby , just in case, as I have a hunch the ti tweeter is the weakest link in my speakers until I get more power behind them one day for high spl.

I'm pretty sure the tweeters are plug and play. Of course they won't measure the same. And at louder SPLs, the ti tweeters will shriek like a banshee.

I think what you ought to do Kodiak is trade in the M60ti for this beauty:

https://www.axiomaudio.com/arb-0115

Or even more beautier is this one. Axiom also has one in Boston Cherry but come on...we're talkin' walnut espresso!

https://www.axiomaudio.com/bst-0102

Oh trust me!!!!! I’ve been looking!!!!! If those m80 were Boston cherry it would be a likely done deal. The black doesn’t jive in my decor here and the Boston cherry gets very high wife approval, shockingly high wife approval.

That’s a great deal, I know!!

I tried to talk my brother into them but he got the refurbed m60 V1 maple that were on there. $600.

Trust me I’m always looking and scheming. I’m addicted.

Edit: Agreed. That walnut espresso is very nice!!!

Edit 2: Basically any upgrade would HAVE to be Boston Cherry to get approved for living room placement. Which is fine by me. Or any real wood veneer of similar colour / shade.

Boston Cherry.

https://www.axiomaudio.com/bst-0067

I know I know. But it’s not the refurbed price of that black o ne. If a Boston Cherry V4 M80 refurb popped up at $1422 I’d be all over it with a trade in of my m60 ti.

I hate bending to the wife but it’s her house too, she really likes, and I mean REALLY LIKES, the extra wood that shows below the m60 grill vs the m80 grill that goes to the floor.

Edit: I’d probably jump on a v4 m60 or v4 m60hp too. Boston Cherry of course.

We looked at the LFR 1100. I tried to describe the way it works and some of the science involved, but she wasn’t interested. We were looking at different finishes to go into our new house one day. I’m gonna have a ton of space to play with and set up a big system but I’ve handed over the finishing choices to her. She’s stoked. I’ll be happy with any finish she chooses. I’m just stoked I’m gonna be able to get dream system one day!!! And build a space to put in !