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Re: receiver calibration
LondonCalling #441173 02/08/21 03:12 AM
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The phone only acts as the controller to command the Spotify app in the receiver. The app in the receiver pulls the songs from the Spotify Cloud.

I've read on here that folks like them. I have no idea if they sound better.


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Re: receiver calibration
LondonCalling #441174 02/08/21 03:24 AM
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Well that sounds just like how Tidal works.


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LondonCalling #441175 02/08/21 03:44 AM
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They all work that way. It's called client-server architecture.


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Mojo #441177 02/08/21 05:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Mojo
I tried Tidal super duper hi def. I couldn't hear a difference compared to Spotify Premium.

WHHHAAAAATTTTT?????!!!!!

ARE YOU SURE YOUR PASSIVES ARE WORKING RIGHT??????


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LondonCalling #441181 02/08/21 04:11 PM
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Chess, that woke me up. smile

I haven't tried with the active omnis. I tried with the M100s and M2s. As I reported when I tried, I found peaks to be 1 dB higher with Tidal HD. That was it. I only checked the peaks with an SPL meter because I thought Tidal as louder but couldn't be sure. I found no difference in soundstage, imaging or fidelity. I am using Firestick 4K via HDMI into my Onk.

I've also tried Amazon HD in 24-bit/96KHz. No difference that I could detect compared to Spotify Premium.

My problem isn't with Spotify. My problem is with Netflix. Why can't I get DTS HD MA quality sound with Netflix? WTF is going on? It sounds like Netflix is messing with the SQ to preserve bandwidth and maybe server space.


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Re: receiver calibration
LondonCalling #441182 02/08/21 08:15 PM
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Bluesound is a brand. Bluos app can stream Tidal Masters over NAD and Bluesound and other enabled devices.

I am about to install a whole home system with 4 zones each with a Bluos Node 2i.

They work well and sound about as good as you can get without hunting down other bottlenecks.

Spotify can stream via bluos, bluetooth, airplay, chromecast, Spotify connect or be jacked right into a device with a cable. If you use Spotify Connect or Bluos it pulls it right from their server over a network connection. Depends on your receiver what you choose to use. The other methods above go to your device first, then the receiver.

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If you cant hear the difference between tidal and spotify premium there is something going on.

Yes, Tidal Masters do sound very different.

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Re: receiver calibration
Mojo #441184 02/08/21 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Mojo
Chess, that woke me up. smile

I was being facetious, Mojo style.
Didn't actually expect a response.


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Originally Posted by TrevorM
Bluesound is a brand. Bluos app can stream Tidal Masters over NAD and Bluesound and other enabled devices.

I am about to install a whole home system with 4 zones each with a Bluos Node 2i.

They work well and sound about as good as you can get without hunting down other bottlenecks.

Spotify can stream via bluos, bluetooth, airplay, chromecast, Spotify connect or be jacked right into a device with a cable. If you use Spotify Connect or Bluos it pulls it right from their server over a network connection. Depends on your receiver what you choose to use. The other methods above go to your device first, then the receiver.

What are your thoughts on the Bluesound app?
I'm considering at some point moving our legacy Sonos units on and was looking at the Blusound products as an alternative if they die or something fails. I know Axiom has one as well, but a polished feature rich interface is really a key thing. I quite like the Sonos interface but their hardware is outdated and they didn't update much in their 'new' products.


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Re: receiver calibration
LondonCalling #441186 02/08/21 08:49 PM
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The Bluos App is fine. Very robust and more feature packed than I need. It acts as a wrapper for many services. Like 30. You can use it that way or use it to set the system or zones up then you can use spotify without it and choose the bluesound device it sends to. Same as sonos that way.

If using Tidal same.

I use it with my NAD receiver and it hasnt burped once. I forgot I had a NAS hard drive in our mechanical room. Its been a few years and bluos still had everything ready to go in a split second after clicking a track.

We are opting away from Sonos for installs because it requires a connection to the mothership to verify license/registration or it wont work. Not cool with that. Sonos will not work without an internet connection even if you are jacked right into it with an rca cable. Mind blowing..... I also dont like how they obsoleted their old products at corporate office level through software.... what a waste of electronics going to the dump.

We put a Sonos stereo in a new place and had to go back finish it because Bell hadnt got the internet connected yet. Hotspotting off a cellphone wouldnt work....

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