Re: Surround speakers QS10 or M5HPOW
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rrlev, so in your family room your not running an ATMOS equipped receiver,processor? Mojo, stupid question here but how do you experiment with the position if your hanging it from the ceiling. I have a California stucco finish and I wouldn't want to drill a lot of mounting holes in the ceiling and then have to patch excessively. Do you know of a way around it from previous experience? Trevor, Processor maps the sound objects to as many speakers configured during setup. More speakers means more seamless and 3dimensional sound bubble. Atmos is a codec only. In an atmos processor height objects are rendered with height speakers if enabled, but atmos is still compatible with a legacy system like 5.1 etc if not. Not sure what your saying but sounds like the QS10's are a mistake because of the receivers Atmos codec.
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Re: Surround speakers QS10 or M5HPOW
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It’s ATMOS enabled (hard to find a receiver that’s not) … just use it for 5.1 If no top speakers are assigned then ATMOS is not enabled.
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Re: Surround speakers QS10 or M5HPOW
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When you experiment with the position, use a temporary structure. Suitable temporary structures could be a ladder, stacked soup cans, a vertical boxitecture.
Others will tell you the QSs are forgiving. I am strongly recommending you experiment. In my case, I very much preferred moving the rear soundstage forward a bit. Your opinion may differ. There is no right answer. My buddies love their rear 5.1 soundstages. But when they come here, they "Oooo!" And "Ahhhhh!"
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Re: Surround speakers QS10 or M5HPOW
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My room is being set up for Atmos but like Trevor said if you don’t have the Atmos speakers plugged in your receiver doesn’t process and play Atmos surround. I can easily change out my m5s and qs10s on my rear surrounds right now with very little difference between the two
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Re: Surround speakers QS10 or M5HPOW
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Canes, are the quick mount brackets the same for the QS10's and M5OW? curious but does the tweeter height remain the same? Have you installed height speakers in the ceiling yet?
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if you don’t have the Atmos speakers plugged in your receiver doesn’t process and play Atmos surround I think I know what your trying to say but in the interest of clarity … A receiver only knows about the speakers you have assigned in its setup (or it can figure out from what terminals speakers are connected to). It can not detect (at least no receiver/processor I know about) what kind of speaker you use (direct, di-pole, bi-pole, ..). 5.1, 7.1, … are bed speaker formats which work well with the side/rear surrounds high up on the walls. These surround speakers should not be confused with height or top speakers. Height speakers are unusually speakers mounted high above bed speakers. Top speakers are usually speakers mounted above you. 3d formats like ATMOS, DTS-X, Auro-3d need tops and/or heights to place sound objects in a 3d space. 5.1, 7.1 have no concept of what theses things are. So depending on if tops and/or heights are present a receiver/processor will know which surround scheme to go for.
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Re: Surround speakers QS10 or M5HPOW
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Thanks for clearing that up, Rich. I didn't feel like typing all that out.
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Sorry, never heard the term "bed speaker format" before, acronym? meaning?
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The speakers below the overheads.
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Rrlev, yes that’s what I was trying to say just did a poor job.
London, yes the quick mount brackets are the same. I have swapped around the qs10s and m5s a few different times just for fun to see if there are any movies where I can tell a distinct difference and in 5.1 I can’t.
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