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Re: Best Omnidirectional Speaker ever?
chesseroo #443459 09/10/21 07:17 PM
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I miss Craig. Now, one hand clapping.

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Re: Best Omnidirectional Speaker ever?
chesseroo #443460 09/10/21 07:27 PM
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I think the MBLs would be insane if for nothing else than the dynamics. For that kind of cash I could build a whole room from scratch, furnish it, and throw a no holds barred setup in it. Oh yeah, rest of a house too! smile

Very cool though. Kinda reminds me of a Tesla coil.

There is a youtube channel called Audio Bacon that has show footage and demo walkthroughs. Pretty decent comparison of different gear if you listen in a quiet space or headphones. Not that any of it would sound that way of course, but interesting at least. Really notice phase shifts/off axis performance as he walks around. Had me curious about Warfdale Elysians for a minute. Then I woke out of that daydream! Lol.

Re: Best Omnidirectional Speaker ever?
2x6spds #443463 09/10/21 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by 2x6spds
I miss Craig. Now, one hand clapping.

It never should have come to someone leaving the forum. ( in that fashion anyway) I’ve only been around a couple years so I don’t know the whole spectrum of the “ story “ but it’s still unfortunate.

We’re just chatting about audio after all. It’s supposed to be fun and entertaining and educational. Let’s try to keep it that way. It’s easy to get fired up sometimes. Let’s all try to think about what we’re sending before pushing reply. Arguments happen and we can disagree fir sure, we should , otherwise what’s the point? But it shouldn’t get personal. Let’s all be audio chums here. It would be a shame to lose anybody over this. You never know what someone is dealing with in their personal life and sometimes we could unknowingly hit the wrong button.

Enjoy the music, enjoy each other. That’s why I keep coming back to see what’s going on in the forum. Ok, gonna go put a bandaid on my bleeding heart…


Yum! Audio Bacon. That’s the best 2 things in the world. I’m going there now.

Last edited by Kodiak; 09/10/21 10:02 PM. Reason: Bacon comment.

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Re: Best Omnidirectional Speaker ever?
Mojo #443469 09/10/21 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Mojo
I am so sure, I'll take the one 'nad bet off the table and slap both wrinkly 'nads down.
I'd raise ya but I'm out of currency smile

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Re: Best Omnidirectional Speaker ever?
chesseroo #443470 09/10/21 11:46 PM
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Yea rrlev!! Now that’s funny and self deprecating to a fault!!
Nice one. That’s the shake this thread needed!


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Re: Best Omnidirectional Speaker ever?
chesseroo #443471 09/11/21 01:36 AM
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Hi Trevor

I have heard the Wharfedale Elysium 4 towers many times, sometimes driven by a Luxman KT88 tube amp and Luxman preamp, sometimes by a Line Magnetic Premium 845 integrated. They are some of the most beautiful speakers I've ever seen. They sound pretty darn good as well.

My Wilson Sabrina X's arrived but one of my BAT monoblocks is still on the way home from Delaware where it was repaired. It should be here by next Wednesday, hopefully before Yom Kippur starts. Mike Rose will set them up on Friday. I'll take some pictures and let you know how they sound out of the box.

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Re: Best Omnidirectional Speaker ever?
chesseroo #443476 09/11/21 03:15 PM
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I maintain the observation made by Chess in the quotation below, on a passive LFR system in the Axiom factory, is inconsistent with my observations of any Axiom speaker I've ever heard and is inconsistent with any review I've read by a professional reviewer or a customer. I maintain there was either a problem in that set-up or the guitars were mixed in a way that resulted in the effect Chess heard.

"Was the guitar on the left or right or neither?"

Edit: a problem in the set-up could be they were placed real bad in the room and/or relative to the listener, wiring was wrong, DSP code was not reflective of the design goals, room was cold and the ferrofluid in the tweeters was too viscous, "weird" room acoustics.

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Re: Best Omnidirectional Speaker ever?
chesseroo #443510 09/12/21 04:29 AM
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Mojo, I agree with you on the LFRs … I also think what Chesseroo heard is probably what he heard.

In setting up my actives I had a few trials where the image was non-existent and the sound was everywhere. When i got them setup correctly, the image was a crisp clean presentation where you could close you eyes and point unwaveringly to each instrument and vocalist.


Think the issue really is in the confrontational reply to his statement rather than who heard what and why.

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