Axiom Home Page Forums General Discussion Home Theater AT screen how to for existing/impossible walls

Yes, 100%. I would never deter anyone from the inwalls. They have the same character, just cant play as low or loud. The OWM3s definitely have more grunt, but I wouldnt say the IWM3s are a compromise. With a sub its pretty much a dead heat I would say. No sub? OW gets the nod for sure. Over an ATMOS system you are really going to notice increased dynamics with OWs. Dont listen loud? Wont matter as much.

Just a different tool for different goals. Smaller rooms kind of demand in wall speakers. Way prefer the onwalls in terms of install ease/time -especially in retrofits.

I havent compared IWM3s with OWM5s in the same room. But, Ive done IW-M3s/M5s and OW-M3s/M5s in same systems and they integrate very well.

Did you invert the m5s?

Ok, I’ll give them another listen … be a while though … too many things pulling in too many directions …

No, the M5s were not invertred in this install. Distance to listener was 15’ or so. Non issue.

In another room we chose to invert the surround M5IW. They were 8’ to listener.

In my room with M5OW we inverted at 7’ to listener.

Keep vertical angle to tweeter +/- 10 degrees if possible we found from measurements. If not possible better to be above tweeter axis. Ie. place them lower than listener or invert if higher.

Hooked up the M5OWs again as front L/R. Ran them off of my AVR, didn't have time to disconnect everything from the 1500. I had forgotten how good they sound. The soundstage and imaging is impressive. I had the tweeters 2º above my ears at 16.5 feet. At the listening position they had plenty of oomph but trailed off fast beyond the MLP. Probably will have a little more SPL once I hook them up to the 1500 and try again. They completely disappear which is an added bonus. You could not tell where the sound was coming from. I may try to drop the tweeters below ear level but I'll have to move my 600 out of the way on the left side.

I'm really curious to hear if dropping the OW below ear level makes a difference for you.

I didn’t realize just how big a 600 was till I got one. When planning the HT I had all except the one under the screen standing up. Now 3 of the 4 are on their side.

I'm going to end up putting mine on its side too. They need to offer a horizontal version like the do with the 800.

They gave me that option when I bought them ... you just have to ask.

In hindsight I'd go with 4 EP500 and place a Tactile Transducer in the front seats.
The 500 plays low enough that you're not going to hear the difference and its much easier to place.
The only thing I think you'd be giving up is the feel ... hence the Tactile Transducers.