Re: ISO Looking for an Axiom DSP1 for LFR1100's
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I don't think I wrote that last line correctly ... so I'll rewrite it ... (BTW, I seem to be cross posting with Mojo ... his last post sneaked in before mine)
The other question is what is the DSP doing to the front signal to make it OMNI-Directional? If only linearizes the curves to a M100 crossover and doesn’t modify anything for the OMNI part then driving just the front LFR with it it is fine too ... you'll get a more refined sound in that case.
I'll also add that if Mojo is right about the changes internally changing the sound of the LFR significantly .... it might still have a reasonably tuned crossover which can be feed directly ... again it's something to ask Axiom ...
One more thought ... if it sounds good to you, your happy, and don't feel a need to look further ... then you don't have to just because we said you should. If you do ... post it here as many of us would appreciate knowing.
Last edited by rrlev; 06/08/22 06:53 PM. Reason: Mojo cross-post
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Re: ISO Looking for an Axiom DSP1 for LFR1100's
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Rich, the DSP handles high Q correction and boundary compensation. The low Q correction is done in the cross-overs.
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Re: ISO Looking for an Axiom DSP1 for LFR1100's
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Hmmm...I looked at the cross-over service parts on the Axiom site. I see only a single LFR cross-over and I assume this must be for the rear driver array. This implies the same cross-over is used for the rear driver array of the LFR660/880/1100. It also implies the cross-over for the front driver array is the same as the M60/80/100.
Rodney, I think you can use it as an M100 without the DSP. Unless that cross-over board has both the front and back cross-overs on it ...
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Re: ISO Looking for an Axiom DSP1 for LFR1100's
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Would it be the same cross-over for the 660/880/1100?
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Re: ISO Looking for an Axiom DSP1 for LFR1100's
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I see where your going ... after rereading you're post on parts ... I'll give it to you ... If the LFRs share the same x-over and the M60/M80/M100 have different x-overs then there is a high likelihood the the LFR1100 uses the M100 x-over. Which mean that if the structural changes doesn't significantly effect the sound (which the DSP corrects) then Rodney's statement of having an M100 equivalent is correct. I personally would still ask Axiom.
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Re: ISO Looking for an Axiom DSP1 for LFR1100's
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The 1100's front drivers only sound good to me even if the crossovers are not as the M100. But who am I to know?. I don't have M100's to compare them. Is there an in house Axiom person who can answer these questions. No one in Axiom seems to be aswering the company's online "Contacts" Also who, in Axiom, can I talk to about obtaining a used DSP?
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Re: ISO Looking for an Axiom DSP1 for LFR1100's
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Well, you didn't buy from them so I wouldn't answer either. As for a used DSP from Axiom, if they had one, it would come with LFRs and it would be under Deals.
Are you getting a nice soundstage and imaging? I can come over and tell you if they sound like M100s.
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Hey Farthing,
What are you using for amp/pre amp or power and sources? Did the speakers come with amps?
M60ti Hafler9505 & JFET Pre,Axiom Transformer. M3 Marantz PM7200 Dual 606 Denon 2700 M2 Yammy RX595
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Re: ISO Looking for an Axiom DSP1 for LFR1100's
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Don’t listen to Mojo. If he ran the business it would be out of business!
Axiom had/has a rep for always being helpful to everyone. You just need to get in touch with the right person … but your timing couldn’t be worse …
Axiom is going though some major growing pains at the moment. Everyone is having issues with getting in touch with them. What used be just a phone call seems to take many. All the people I’ve interacted with lately seem to be new and I think have to ask others on anything but a straightforward order. Although I’m guessing, I believe, the people who can answer you are overwhelmed with the Bryston integration. I’m also guessing that communications other than replies to orders confirmation emails are not being tracked and get lost. Unfortunately, that means a lot of emails and calls are going unanswered. This is not good for business and the higher up know it. I can only assume they are working on it.
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Re: ISO Looking for an Axiom DSP1 for LFR1100's
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They can't keep up because people buy LFRs, get dementia, sell their LFRs with no DSP, and the new buyers swamp them with calls asking for DSP discounts or M100 conversions!
And then you have those who study the graphs and want to know if a pimple at 200Hz is going to matter in their room.
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