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I'm running a pair of M60s (among other speakers in the mix), but does the M60s just not seem to produce a lot of volume? Perhaps this is a limitation of my receiver (H/K 630)? I don't know. It's like the bass comes to life when I add the subwoofer, but without it the lows seem kinda quiet. Thoughts? Suggestions? Rebukes

Greetings,
I have the M60's, QS8 (x3), VP150 and STF-3 powered with a Yamaha 5660 (90w x 6) and mine just roar if I let them.
How do you have your cross overs set?
b.

Actually...let me rephrase this. If I put them in standalone stereo...no subwoofer...then I feel they lack. When I put a sub with it, it sounds great. I mean. I'm not complaining at all about the overall sound. I love it. But when they stand alone I feel like the bass is quieter.

...and yes...I realize that those speakers will be quiter than a sub. I'm just talking, less than I expected. Compared to my old Bose speakers (cringe) they don't produce as much bass. But...what it does produce overall is great.

Sounds reasonable to me... If you're used to a sub, they're not gonna fill the room like a sub does.

Ahh, you said the magic words. Bose speakers accentuate the very frequencies that are pleasing to many people's ears. For bass, that's around 200Hz. Because the M60s are so much more accurate than those bose speakers, you no longer have a huge emphasis at 200Hz, and your brain misses it.

I tossed on a couple of CD's turned the sub off and just to see how I used to feel about the M60's by themselves. I used Dire Straits - Sultans of Swing, The Band - The Weight, Stevie Wonder - Sir Duke, and Maxi Priest (w/Shaggy) - That Girl. I think the best description of the sound is that the bass is tighter than you may be used to ie. they aren't boomy. If you have Maxi Priest (a poor recording in my opinion) you'll definitely feel the bass - lash down your furniture if you decide to throw in the Sub.

I had the same initial impressions when I got the M60's - they made me realise how boomy my old speakers were.

Sean

you may have them set to small to use with the sub. i know if i set mine to large and turn the sub off bass is pretty decent. however the bass doesn't compare to what my old marantz speakers produced.

Same here. Set your speakers to Large if you can do so with your amp and see if there is a difference.

Sean

No. All of my speakers are set to large, even my M2s. My receiver manual said that you only need to set a speaker to small if it can't handle anything below 200 HZ...which all of the Axiom speakers can. I tried, for kicks, putting my VP150 to small and demoed some dialogue. It sounded lacking and the voice sounded somewhat thin. I put it back to Large...ahh..all better. So I'm a firm believe that just because you have a subwoofer (which I do) you don't need to set your speakers to small (especially if you have your sub crossed over at something like 80 HZ). Most speakers on their own won't go that low...so there in lies the balance Confusious.